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Lindsey Groves <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:50:46 -0800
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To all of Conch-L:

        Public lambasting of another researchers work is distasteful and
highly unprofessional ... particularly if you have accidentally sent
those criticisms to a public forum.  Yes, as Dennis stated, errors are
made and we correct them and move on.  Unfortunately some people cannot
get over this human foible and proceed to harass others further.
Regarding the seemingly erroneous over splitting of species (especially
the cypraeids and cones) Ed Petuch once told me (and I am paraphrasing)
"if you think I am wrong ... prove me wrong in a peer reviewed paper
rather than verbally or on line ... that's all I ask."  Some of his
critics have indeed taken him to task in certain instances in peer
reviewed papers.  But those are few and far between and unfortunately
some continue to make frequent vitriolic attacks, both verbally and on
line.  I have a ton and-a-half of respect for Dick Petit, Ed Petuch, and
Dennis Sargent.  Unfortunately, this thread has left egg on Dick's face
and whether he erroneously sent the criticisms to Conch-L accidentally
or on purpose the fact is his personal opinions are now publically know.
Apology or not he too is guilty of an error!  See we all make mistakes!
So be careful when replying to an e-mail everyone ... you may be sorry.
Let's get back to molluscan research and leave the politicking to the
politicians.

Aloha,

Lindsey

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-----Original Message-----
From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Dennis Sargent
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:08 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] The Beaui

Dear Mr. Petit  "Richard",

Your review of our book on the "Rare and Unusual Shells of the Florida
Keys"
noted several errors. This was a limited printing and we never received
a proof set before it went to press.
The new book "Rare and Unusual Shells of Southern Florida" is a total
remake and expansion of that book. We did use some of the same reviewers
and included a few of their updated remarks on the rear cover.
The new book is the result of over two years of work in the field and in
museums, both photographing and studying type specimens. The photographs
are second to none and the work has been reviewed by other workers.
As in life nothing is perfect and after three proof sets, I found a few
errors. No book is perfect, but it does not take away from the finished
product or to the value to users who are interested in the molluscan
fauna of our state.

Your comments on CONCH-L concerning a book that you have not seen are
disturbing. Your "Conchologica ingrata" is aptly named as you seem to
focus on the negative and do not recognize the value in the items
reviewed.
You may contact me directly any time for information concerning our
books, articles, papers, etc. and when you have the facts, you are
welcome to print what you wish.
If you have any additional questions concerning our books you may
contact me at [log in to unmask] or on my cell phone at (352)
516-7821.
If you call me and I do not answer, call again or leave a message, as I
turn it off for meetings and appointments.

Unlike you, I try to find the positive concerning all items in life. I
find it to be much more rewarding.

Best wishes,

Dennis M. Sargent

-----Original Message-----
From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Richard Petit
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:06 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] The Beaui

Dear Harry:

Thanks for your note about the Beauii.  I had already been directed to
it on the web.  I was hunting a review of the first Petuch & Sargent
book that appears, in part, on the back cover of the new incarnation of
that masterwork.  I have amused myself this weekend writing a review of
it.  The temptation to entitle it "A floccinaucinihilipilification" is
great.

Were Petuch and/or Sargent at Sanibel hawking this work?

Hope you had a good time at Sanibel.

Kindest regards,

Dick

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