the personal sniping aside,  to me what is at issue here seems to be
the process. sounds like the Fl. Keys version got printed with a few
steps of the normal editorial process removed? Is that what happens in
this day of digital publishing and self-publishing?   If I had bought
the 2011 version when I saw it advertised a few short months ago and
later found out  at the time it was realized that  there were already
problems and/or it was being "overhauled" , well, imagine if that book
was a car, or a prescription drug.........



On 3/8/12, Lindsey Groves <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> To all of Conch-L:
>
>         Public lambasting of another researchers work is distasteful and
> highly unprofessional ... particularly if you have accidentally sent
> those criticisms to a public forum.  Yes, as Dennis stated, errors are
> made and we correct them and move on.  Unfortunately some people cannot
> get over this human foible and proceed to harass others further.
> Regarding the seemingly erroneous over splitting of species (especially
> the cypraeids and cones) Ed Petuch once told me (and I am paraphrasing)
> "if you think I am wrong ... prove me wrong in a peer reviewed paper
> rather than verbally or on line ... that's all I ask."  Some of his
> critics have indeed taken him to task in certain instances in peer
> reviewed papers.  But those are few and far between and unfortunately
> some continue to make frequent vitriolic attacks, both verbally and on
> line.  I have a ton and-a-half of respect for Dick Petit, Ed Petuch, and
> Dennis Sargent.  Unfortunately, this thread has left egg on Dick's face
> and whether he erroneously sent the criticisms to Conch-L accidentally
> or on purpose the fact is his personal opinions are now publically know.
> Apology or not he too is guilty of an error!  See we all make mistakes!
> So be careful when replying to an e-mail everyone ... you may be sorry.
> Let's get back to molluscan research and leave the politicking to the
> politicians.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Lindsey
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Dennis Sargent
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] The Beaui
>
> Dear Mr. Petit  "Richard",
>
> Your review of our book on the "Rare and Unusual Shells of the Florida
> Keys"
> noted several errors. This was a limited printing and we never received
> a proof set before it went to press.
> The new book "Rare and Unusual Shells of Southern Florida" is a total
> remake and expansion of that book. We did use some of the same reviewers
> and included a few of their updated remarks on the rear cover.
> The new book is the result of over two years of work in the field and in
> museums, both photographing and studying type specimens. The photographs
> are second to none and the work has been reviewed by other workers.
> As in life nothing is perfect and after three proof sets, I found a few
> errors. No book is perfect, but it does not take away from the finished
> product or to the value to users who are interested in the molluscan
> fauna of our state.
>
> Your comments on CONCH-L concerning a book that you have not seen are
> disturbing. Your "Conchologica ingrata" is aptly named as you seem to
> focus on the negative and do not recognize the value in the items
> reviewed.
> You may contact me directly any time for information concerning our
> books, articles, papers, etc. and when you have the facts, you are
> welcome to print what you wish.
> If you have any additional questions concerning our books you may
> contact me at [log in to unmask] or on my cell phone at (352)
> 516-7821.
> If you call me and I do not answer, call again or leave a message, as I
> turn it off for meetings and appointments.
>
> Unlike you, I try to find the positive concerning all items in life. I
> find it to be much more rewarding.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dennis M. Sargent
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Richard Petit
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:06 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] The Beaui
>
> Dear Harry:
>
> Thanks for your note about the Beauii.  I had already been directed to
> it on the web.  I was hunting a review of the first Petuch & Sargent
> book that appears, in part, on the back cover of the new incarnation of
> that masterwork.  I have amused myself this weekend writing a review of
> it.  The temptation to entitle it "A floccinaucinihilipilification" is
> great.
>
> Were Petuch and/or Sargent at Sanibel hawking this work?
>
> Hope you had a good time at Sanibel.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Dick
>
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