Here in Arizona the '70's were a cooler/wetter decade than previous decades. The temps of the 1970's affected (skewed?) our averages for the last 40 years, and now that that decade is more than 30 years ago, our average temps are higher, and the wetness drier. So maybe now your East Coast climate may be warming again, and those species will now move back up north on the Atlantic Coast. Then again, maybe they won't?
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To keep in shell-related mode, imagine the irony in reading the following in Jacobson and Emerson’s 1971 booklet “Shells From Cape Cod to Cape May (With Special Reference to the New York City Area).”
Littorina irrorata (Page 52): “Sometimes on the beaches in New York one can find a dead, broken shell . . . . These pitiful specimens are apparently the only signs still remaining of this snail, once abundant on these shores. Some believe that it has vanished because of the increasing coldness of our offshore waters.”
Noetia ponderosa (Page 76): “The last of our ark shells has not been found alive north of Cape Hatteras, but dead single valves are not uncommon on the south shore beaches of Long Island. Like Littorina irrorata, they probably died out here as the waters turned colder.”
I am told that there is a population of Littoraria irrorata in the Stone Harbor, NJ, area, but I have not been able to validate, despite searching. There may . . . may . . . be a small population in the Lewes, DE, area; several years ago I saw from a distance what might have been L. irrorata clinging to partially submerged Spartina stems at high tide – I was not in a situation where I could go wading, however, so could not confirm.
Bob Fales
Edison, NJ
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Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Arctic Sea Ice Hits a New Low in June
It IS frustrating, Vicky!
But also understandable given that we have a corporate press which is addicted to the notion of "both sides" when the consensus among climate scientists is over 90%...and treating the idea of anthropogenic change as equivalent with denial.
At play, too, is that the major oil companies knew about this since the 1970s from their own studies and
proceeded to employ public relations firms (and some scientists) to push denial in the media. One of the same PR firms was used during the 1960s to spread the notion that smoking doesn't cause cancer.
Several states' attorneys general are seeking to prosecute oil companies for fraud. Perhaps the federal government will take their lead.
Oil companies' legal defense is reportedly based on their corporations' Constitutional right to free speech (the Supreme Court has several times upheld the principle that corporations are people!). Of course, free speech rights don't protect one from fraud charges.
To keep this shell-related, what are the chances more exploration of Arctic shell fauna can be done before the fossil fuel industry decides that relative lack of ice presents opportunity for drilling more fossil fuels? Are we apt to find much fossil record under previously ice-bound areas?
David Kirsh
Durham, NC
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On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:34 PM, vwall3 <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
And there is nothing more frustrating than to have supposedly intelligent people still deny that our planet is in trouble from accelerating climate change.
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From: David Kirsh <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 7/10/16 12:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [CONCH-L] Arctic Sea Ice Hits a New Low in June
Listers,
Coming to your home planet!
I've seen mention that the Arctic may be totally ice free either this September or next (at least temporarily). This article doesn't directly support that projection but the general trend is clear:
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/37921-arctic-sea-ice-hits-a-new-low-in-june
David Kirsh, LPC, RN
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