am 13.08.2002 18:42 Uhr schrieb Alfonso Pina unter [log in to unmask]:

> Some precisions about umlauts:
>
> First -  As Franck says, in French, as well as in Spanish and I think in all
> other Latin derived languages, it is called diaeresis, and I am not sure it
> marks the same linguistic features as in German.
>
> Second - The way Patty indicates to get some diachritical marks works
> perfectly, and it is not HTML, just plain ASCII text: you can test it.
>
> Third - Unfortunately I don't speak German, but I always thought that umlaut
> was an alternative way to indicate some diptongues, so you can write
> "Röding" or "Roeding" and both forms are perfectly correct. Same thing
> occurs to German beta, wich is the same as a double "s". And this is not a
> colateral effect of computer technology: you can find it in many printed
> text, modern or old. Surely there must be some German speaker out there who
> could clarify this point.
>
> Fourth - I think that the use of diachritical marks is not allowed by the
> ICZN. Sure, not for species names (I'm unsure about authors names). Anyway,
> the general trend is not to use them, wich leads to the fact that many of
> the authors names other than English are really bad written (curiously,
> English and Latin coincide at this point: none of them use this marks). Use
> of diptongues instead of umlauts allows to avoid this errors for many German
> names, so it could be advisable.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alfonso Pina
> Málaga, Spain
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> www.eumed.net/malakos
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Grebneff" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Umlaut
>
>
>>> Dear Linda and other English-speaking people,
>>>
>>> Yes, that is correct Röding is the same as Roeding, for the time when
>>> computers would not do umlauts and other signs. Now, they all do, and it
>>> just takes a little figuring out. Each program has it's own way of
>>> inserting these,
>>
>> Funny, all the other lists I'm on quite rightly reject any message
>> with HTML content; styled fonts require HTML. So for me, annotying
>> though it is, no umlauts (but I refuse to add an e instead!). Eudora
>> Light doesn't have the option anyway...
>>
>> I can't do umlauts with Macdraw either, which I use for labels.
>> --
>> Andrew Grebneff
>> 165 Evans St, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut

After all a short note from a German: All Germans are using Umlauts:
ae = ä
oe = ö
ue = ü
(ß = ss)
But there are no Umlauts in English, Latin and most other languages. That is
why in this languages the use of ae, oe, ue and ss instead of the umlaut is
correct.
Use of Umlauts in scientific shell names:
Tutufa nigrita (Mühlhäusser & Blöcher, 1979) - here Umlaut used in authors
names.
but: Bursa muehlhaeusseri Parth, 1990 - here no Umlaut, because used in the
scientific name.
and: Architectonica proestleri Alf & Kreipl, 2001 (no umlaut - scientific
name)
The correct spelling of my name is Pröstler, but since most persons here in
the Philippines do not know anything about umlauts (mostly it comes like
"Prostler") and also most of the English-speaking persons are not used to it
and it also causes trouble when using it in some computer programs, I
decided to use Proestler.

Best regards to all from
Wolfgang Proe(ö)stler