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Chris K Takahashi <[log in to unmask]>
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Conchologists of America List <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:48:22 -0400
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 23:44:05 +0200, Franck Frydman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Hello Ross ! Are we the only two interested in Harpidae ??? To me Harpa
>goodwini Rehder , 1993 is nothing but a very large geographical variant of
>Harpa kajiyamai Habe in Habe and Kosuge , 1970 . Nobody will ever know why
>Rehder , who had also described the latter  in 1973 , did not compare his
>1993 "new "species with Harpa kajiyamai .According to me Harpa kajiyamai
and
>Harpa goodwini are  identical since they only differ by the size . Franck
>Frydman
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ross Mayhew" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:15 PM
>Subject: Oops!! Harpa goodwini Rehder, 1993
>
>
>> I'm REALLY good at making myself look stupid!  The beast in question is
>> actually Harpa goodwini Rehder, 1993 - and i guess the question would be
>> is this generally recognized as a full species, or has it since been
>> relegated to being a subspecies or regional form of another Harpa,
>> seeing how variable members of the genus are.
>>
>> -JR

GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT! I WORKED W/REHDER BEFORE HIS DEATH ON
MY SELF-COLLECTED NEW SPECIES OF SHELLS FROM ISLA DE PASCUA ON A EXPEDITION
THERE. HIS DESCRIPTIONS ON MY SHELLS ALONG W/THE SHELLS THEMSELFS WERE LOST
UPON HIS DEATH. HE DID HOWEVER TOLD ME THE TALE,,,,,,,

DANIEL GOODWIN, A PET STORE MANAGER & HAW'N SHELL COLLECTOR AS WELL AS PART-
TIME SHELL DEALER GOT SOME UNUSUAL LOOKING c.f. OF HARPA FROM DEEP-WATER
LOBSTER TRAPS OFF OAHU FROM MICHAEL ROGERS. HE WANTED TO GET THEM DESCRIBED
SO BUNNY COOK OF HONOLULU SAID SHE'D HELP. AFTER A FEW YEARS GOODWIN DEALT
W/REHDER WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS WAS A NORTHERN
RANGE EXTENTION OF KAJIYAMAI. BUT DUE TO THE LONG-TIME BEING TAKEN ON THIS
SHELL REHDER DECIDED TO NAME IT AS A FULL SPECIES RATHER THAN KAJIYAMAI f.
GOODWINI AT COOK'S SUGGESTION.

IN PART THIS IS A LARGE NORTHERN RANGE EXTENSION OF KAJIYAMAI AS YOU
SURMISED. IT WAS NAMED FOR GOODWIN DUE TO HIS OBSERVATIONS & THE TIME SPENT
WORKING ON THIS SPECIES. HOPE THIS TIDBIT OR INFO HELPS. CHRIS:) c",)

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