It is already written at the "bottom" of this letter!!!!!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jacobs" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?


> Gijs,
> Could you give us the citation for aurora?
> Thanks.
>
> John & Cheryl Jacobs
> Seffner, Florida
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gijs C. Kronenberg" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
>
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > As the author of Euprotomus aurora I have nothing to add to the comments
> > already made by Henk K. Mienis.
> > With all due respect, the dealer who sold specimens labled as E. aurora
to
> > John Schrecke obviously did not know what he was talking about.
> > For stromb collectors: if you see any specimen which has locality data
> from
> > places in the Indian Ocean or Red Sea, that is, if these data are
correct,
> > and which looks like and is labled Euprotomus aurisdianae, you bet you
> have
> > a genuine E. aurora which is by the way a very common species.
> > If you Timothy or John have any further questions, you can contact me
> > directly.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Gijs
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mienis" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:25 AM
> > Subject: Fw: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "mienis" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: "Conchologists of America List" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Timothy,
> > >
> > > E. aurora Kronenberg, 2002 is also living in the Red Sea. If it is a
> > hybrid
> > > between E. auridianae and E. bulla then these species should occur in
> the
> > > Red Sea too. However, all previous records of either aurisdianae or
> bulla
> > > from that area (Yaron; Mienis; Heiman; etc.)turned out to have been
> based
> > on
> > > misidentifications of aurora!
> > > I refer to the original publication for further details:
> > > Kronenberg, G.C., 2002. Revision of Euprotomus Gill, 1970. 3.
> Description
> > of
> > > Euprotomus aurora spec. nov. from the Indian Ocean (Gastropoda,
> > Strombidae).
> > > Vita Malacologica, 1: 55-60.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Henk K. Mienis
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Timothy Blackwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > Just recently I received a price list on which were listed specimens
of
> > > Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora.  Unfortunately, there were no pictures.
> > While
> > > browsing through a
> > > number of web sites later I came across the following address that had
> > > several photos of this species:
> > >
> >
>
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/loic.limpalaer/Taurus/Strombidae/page_euprotomus.htm
> > > Several examples of S. aurora were shown, alongside specimens of S.
> > > aurisdianae and S. bulla.  The appearance of the examples of S. aurora
> > > brought to mind what S. aurisdianae would look like if it had the
color
> > > typical of S. bulla.  Another site
> > > (http://www.conchology.be) had specimens resembling S. aurora that
were
> > > labeled as S. aurisdianae X bulla.  The morphology and distributions
> were
> > > the same.  Now for my question.  Is S. aurora a distinct and valid
> > species,
> > > or should it be considered a hybrid between aurisdianae and bulla?
Any
> > > assistance you can provide will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in
> > advance.
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Tim Blackwood
>