To those interested,  I sent another image of the shell in question without
the animal to Bill Frank of the Jacksonville Shell Club.
He said he will post the picture along with the pictures of the live
specimen.  Check it out at http://www.jaxshells.org/pkanner.htm

Regards,
Paul Kanner


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From: "Andrew Grebneff" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: More ID help


> Interesting beast... rather nice!
>
> It has to be a buccinid (there's seemingly an operculum attached to
> the foot in the ventral image; unfortunately the columella isn't
> visible, but I very much doubt that there are plaits), but I hesitate
> to place it in a subfamily... it could be Photinae, for example, or
> Pisaniinae.
>
> Doesn't quite look right for any "turrid", though some Mangeliinae
> and Borsoniinae have no more sinus than Buccinidae do. The sinus on
> this shell, best seen in the growthlines in the dorsal view, takes up
> all of the lip "above" the canal, and is typically buccinid-shallow.
>
> It is possible that this is not a native, but an introduction
> (possibly all alone, fallen from a ship or trawler); I can't find it
> in any book covering any region. So I too would be interested to find
> out what it is and whether it's something new and native.
>
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