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Franck Frydman <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 3 Oct 2004 01:55:40 +0200
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 Mr Gray ,  you are totally  ignorant of  what I have read or not and it
seems to me that you understood what you wanted to understand and not what I
meant  : The meaning of " teaching of Darwinism " in my message is ,  OF
COURSE  , the teaching of what  Darwinism is   and obviously not  Darwinism
itself as a religion , which it never was  . Please learn at least one thing
here : There is no  state religious education  in France ( it only exists in
private religious schools ) since here religion and beliefs are considered
as strictly personal matters .   Here YOU are the only one   to show "
closemindedism ". Regarding your scornful opinion about the French , which
only commits you  ,   seems to be your very own  participation in a recent
anti-France mud-flinging campaign  in the U.S. and is completely irrelevant
a  famous [ in France , of course ;-) ] French  [ sorry ;-) ...] writer ,
Georges Courteline ,  said : " To be considered as an idiot by a fool is a
fine gourmet delight . " ( " Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est
une volupté de fin gourmet . " ) . You make my day * . Franck Frydman   ( *
I am an admirer of Mr Clint Eastwood
    ----- Original
> Message -----
> From: "mike gray" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Creationism ...
>
>
> > Franck Frydman wrote:
> > >  Here in France Creationism is very seldom defended  and is nothing
but
> one
> > > of the many manifestations of religious  integrism . When in France ,
> land
> > > of the Lights where critical spirit used to be taught in the " Ecoles
de
> la
> > > République " ( I am not at all sure that it is now ... )  ,  state
> education
> > > is laic according to the Law  Creationism mainly expresses itself  in
> state
> > > public schools where some pupils want to impose the archaic  rules and
> > > obscurantist views which  their ignorant and narrow-minded clerics
> > > impregnate them with   by  refusing the teaching of Darwinism  and do
> not
> > > even hesitate ,  sometimes ,  to use violence to prevent their
teachers
> from
> > > teaching them   what their clerics censure  , e.g.  sexual education ,
> > > Darwinism ,  History whether it is critical to their own religion  or
> not in
> > > accordance with their own political views ( even when it is  fully
> supported
> > > and documented ) . Some of them even refuse Physical Education
teaching
> . I
> > > am not at all  here to discuss the existence of God nor to say that
one
> > > should be a believer or not but in my  very humble opinion true
> believers
> > > should be convinced that God created ... Evolution . Franck Frydman
> >
> > It is quite obvious that you have read neither the Bible nor Darwin.
> >
> > Teach "Darwinism"????? If Darwin were alive today he would be horrified
> > that his work, including its errors, had been accorded religious status.
> >
> > While Genesis gave an accurate description of the "big bang" before
> > scientists even discovered grants.
> >
> > The problem with the French is neither creationism nor Darwinism. It's
> > closedmindedism.
> >
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