Dear Manolo
I have a number of Conus milneedwardsii from Mozambique, none with 46mm,
but I have seen some with about 60mmm, so I think 46mm is possible. I
agree with you that it is necessary to see the holotype.
Best regards to all
Carlos          www.shellscarvalho.com

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De: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Em nome de
Manuel J. Tenorio
Enviada: quinta-feira, 2 de Junho de 2005 21:12
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Assunto: Re: Conus milneedwardsi - why no nominative form?


Dear friends:
This is a very good point. Many other cases like this do in fact exist:
an
old description in which the name has been commonly used (or misused) to
design another completely different species. I haven't checked myself
the
holotype of milneedwardsi which shoud be in Paris, but I will try.
However, the original description is available online. Please check at
the
wonderful Alan Kohn's site by following this link:
http://biology.burke.washington.edu/conus/catalogue/sources/Jousseaume,%
20F.%201894.%20Bull.%20Soc.%20Philom.%20Paris%20(8).%20vi.pdf

The article is in french with the original description in latin. What I
can say is that apparently Josseaume did described something that sounds
like a miniature milneedwardsi (according to our modern standards). It
is
clearly assigned to the textile group and the high spire is the most
relevant character mentioned. The type locality is Aden (Yemen), and all
the species described in the article come from the Red Sea. This is odd,
because I do not recall that typical milneedwardsii had been found in
the
Red Sea, at least recently.
AS I said before, I must have a look at the holotype, but it could
actually happen that the original milneedwardsi resulted to be something
different to the "modern" large milneedwardsi, typically from
Mozambique.
If so, clytospira would probably take its place as nominal species, and
then the subspecies from Mozambique would eventually require a new name!
What about "conus clytospira conch-lerorum"? ha ha

Warmest regards to all

Manuel Jimenez Tenorio
Jerez, SPAIN

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