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Martin Eastburn <[log in to unmask]>
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Often in the front of the book there is an approved set by the group.
Getting a World Wide set is going to be another international committee
that can't get a simple set done.   Look in the front or back of the book
for those.

Martin
p.s. I belong to another fraternal group and they have their own writers
guide on English usage.  Keeping that in mind apart from other writing
is troublesome as well.

On 7/27/2014 10:40 PM, Ron G. Noseworthy wrote:
> I find journal abbreviations in the reference lists to be a torment.  Maybe there is a list of approved abbreviations but I can't find it.  There also appears to be some differences in the abbreviations themselves which compound the difficulty, and some abbreviations for little-known publications are so cryptic that they present a real challenge to decipher.  There is also the problem of the older publications (pre-1900), where some journals abbreviate the full title, which can be rather long, and other give a snippet.  Both trying to understand the abbreviations when examining the references and having to create them when preparing the references can be quite frustrating.  No doubt, space is a factor for editors to desire abbreviations but I don't think most researchers desire them.
>
> Regards,
> Ron
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 7/27/14, Gerlach <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Journal Formats
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Received: Sunday, July 27, 2014, 1:56 PM
>   
>   
>     
>   
>       
>     
>     
>       Dear Alan
>   
>         That is a good point, and indeed a great source of
>   frustration. I
>         would like editors to at least acknowledge that the
>   format of the
>         references is unimportant until they have accepted the
>   manuscript,
>         only then is it really worth meeting their arbitrary
>   preferences.
>   
>         
>   
>         Yes, my book on Partula does cover Pease and Garrett,
>   very
>         interesting characters from an interesting time.
>   
>         
>   
>         Justin
>   
>         
>   
>           Dr. Justin
>               Gerlach
>   
>           New
>             publication:  Snailing in the South Seas - the Partula
>               story
>   
>             
>   
>           
>           Chair - Terrestrial
>             and Freshwater Invertebrate Red List Authority
>   (IUCN/SSC)
>   
>           Facilitator - Climate Change Working Group of  IUCN SSC
>   Amphibian
>             Specialist Group
>   
>           Scientific Coordinator - Nature
>             Protection Trust of Seychelles
>   
>           Affiliated Researcher - University Museum of
>   Zoology, Cambridge
>   
>           Academic Associate - Pembroke College, Cambridge
>   
>           Senior Member (Teaching) - Robinson College,
>   Cambridge
>   
>           
>   
>           Follow
>             @jstgerlach
>           
>         
>         On 27/07/2014 18:30, Alan Kabat wrote:
>   
>       
>       
>           
>   
>             Dr. Gerlach --
>            
>           Thanks, but there still remains the problem of
>   formatting
>             the rest of the entry.  Some journals want
>   the authors' names
>             in all caps, others in mixed case.  Some
>   want the journal name
>             in italics, others plain text.  Some want the
>   year in
>             brackets, others in parentheses, and yet others
>   just with a
>             period.  Some want a period between the
>   authors' names and the
>             year, others want a comma.
>            
>           I was interested to see that you have a new
>   book coming out
>             on Partula over the centuries.  Does the book
>   also cover
>             Garrett and Pease?
>            
>           Alan Kabat
>            
>           -----Original Message-----
>   
>             From: Gerlach <[log in to unmask]>
>   
>             To: CONCH-L <[log in to unmask]>
>   
>             Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 12:01 pm
>   
>             Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Journal Formats
>   
>             
>   
>             
>               
>                 I
>   recently read an opinion
>                   piece somewhere (don't remember where)
>   pointing out that
>                   journal abbreviations are unnecessary in
>   on-line
>                   publishing, where space is not the
>   constraint that it
>                   was when everything was hard copy only.
>   Maybe the end of
>                   title reformatting is approaching
>   
>                   
>   
>                     Dr. Justin Gerlach
>   
>                     New publication:  Snailing in the South Seas - the
>                       Partula story
>   
>                     
>   
>                     Chair - Terrestrial and Freshwater
>                       Invertebrate Red List Authority
>   (IUCN/SSC)
>   
>                     Facilitator - Climate Change Working Group
>   of
>                       IUCN SSC Amphibian Specialist Group
>   
>                     Scientific Coordinator - Nature Protection Trust of
>                       Seychelles
>   
>                     Affiliated Researcher - University Museum
>   of Zoology,
>                     Cambridge
>   
>                     Academic Associate - Pembroke College,
>   Cambridge
>   
>                     Senior Member (Teaching) - Robinson
>   College, Cambridge
>   
>                     
>   
>                     Follow @jstgerlach
>                   On 27/07/2014 13:31, Ron G. Noseworthy
>   wrote:
>   
>                 
>                 
>                   Hi, everyone!
>   
>   This may have been covered before but may still be of
>   interest.  It appears that almost every journal has a
>   different type of format for the research it publishes,
>   especially the reference list.  If researchers decide on a
>   journal to submit a paper to, and then change to another,
>   all the formatting usually has to be adjusted.  It's not
>   much of a problem when there is a short reference list but,
>   when there are a large number of references, changing the
>   format can be quite time-consuming.
>   
>   This may be only a "tempest in a teapot" but has
>   any though been given to a universal standard formal for
>   journals?  I believed it would make things easier when
>   preparing a manuscript for publication.
>   
>   Best regards from Korea!
>   Ron  Noseworthy
>   
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