I have a suggestion: Lets eliminate "Tribes" altogether. Do we really need that designation to understand where mollusks belong?
    The Question Man
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> From: "Gijs C. Kronenberg" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2005/01/12 Wed PM 01:23:57 EST
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> Subject: Re: was separating tribes from genera
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> Hi,
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> Jung's paper (as often happens with papers by paleontologists) is simply overlooked or ignored by collectors and students of recent species, just as it is the other way around.
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> I love those questions, and here's one more: why aren't Aporrhaidae, Struthiolariidae as well as Pugnellidae and Rostellariidae not regarded as subfamilies of Strombidae?
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> As I tried to argue earlier, those choises, how carefully considerated by a scientist, remain at least partly, subjective. To which (sub)family would one allocate Orthaulax species, and what to do with the Rimella-like species?
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> Gijs
>   Kay and others,
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>   In 1974 a paper dealing with the Terebellum was published by the Paleontological Research Institution, Ithaca, NY.;
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>   Jung, P. 1974, A Revision of the Family Seraphsidae (Gastropoda: Strombacea), Palaeontographica Americana, Vol. VIII, No. 47, 72pp, 16 pl.
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>   The abstract states, "Terebellum and its relatives are treated as an independent family within the Superfamily Strombacea, and its species are revised taxonomically. The Seraphsidae are subdivided into the three genera Seraphs Montfort, 1810,  Paraseraphs, new genus, and Terebellum Röding, 1798. ..."
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>   In "Classification of Mollusca" (1997) Victor Millard places Terebellum in a conventional taxonomic placement within the Family Strombidae, yet recognizes the Family Seraphsidae Jung, 1974 in the Stromboidea.  The extinct members of Seraphs and Paraseraphs are quite similar to Terebellum.  Has Jung's work been superceded, overlooked or dismissed by a more recent publication?
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>   So also, in addition to Kay's question "why Terebellum is included in Strombidae", I would pose to any Stromboidea experts on the list the flip-side, "why Seraphsidae is not a Subfamily within the Strombidae.
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