Actually I think that this discussion is very pertinent to our forum or any
"scientific" community.

When there is a group of people, who now have a significant influence in our
(US) government and our education system, who should be more concerned? Who
should do something about it?

And it's not "venom" to have an opposing opinion. Actually it is a genuine
fear for the future of our county and our world that extends far beyond a
political opinion but to the core of our topic, and that is the stewardship
of this planet and it's recourses.

Russ


----- Original Message -----
From: "Barney, Winston" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: anti-intellectualism, "fundamentalism", tax cuts,
consumerism/materialism - oh my!!


> I think this forum has drifted from its original purpose, now taking on
> political sniping.
>
> Let's can (put an end to) the talk about right-wingers. There are plenty
of
> other sites where you can spit your venom.
>
> Winston Barney
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Webb" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: anti-intellectualism, "fundamentalism", tax cuts,
> consumerism/materialism - oh my!!
>
>
> > And don't forget, THEY are watching you!
> >
> > This is "war", after all.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Dayle" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: anti-intellectualism, "fundamentalism", tax cuts,
> > consumerism/materialism - oh my!!
> >
> >
> > > Ross,... and others,
> > >
> > > You make cogent points for conchology and malacology in particular,
and
> > science
> > > generally, in all four cases:
> > >
> > > 1.) Since most "right wingers" are apparently not adept at science,
they
> > fear it
> > > and, fearing it, they either try to ignore it or hide from it or,
> failing
> > that,
> > > decapitate it.
> > > 2.) See 1.) and substitute "fundamentalists" for "right wingers."
> > > 3.) Until this most recent conservative admistration, minimal
> governmental
> > > interfacing WAS the norm. Now, I hear the cry (from Plato's REPUBLIC),
> > "Let not
> > > the peoples' friend be lost unto them." Meaning, keep us in power
> forever,
> > that
> > > we may protect you fully. What followed that call is remembered well
by
> > those
> > > who have read The Republic.
> > > 4.) In our American surfeit, we, above nearly all others, should be
> > altruistic,
> > > almost to a fault. While most other parts of the (third) world
scrabble
> > for a
> > > living, we have lots,... and then some. A little stewardship on our
part
> > isn't
> > > asking too much.
> > >
> > > Let's hope that the pendulum doesn't swing too far to the other side,
> > though,
> > > because too much of anything is still too much!
> > >
> > > Bob Dayle
> > >
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