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Russ Webb <[log in to unmask]>
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Marlo,

Look here;  http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0512e&L=conch-l#2

Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "marlo" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: No "venom", no mud


> I guess I must have missed the original email with the "offensive
> terminology."   Would someone repost it?
>
>
> Marlo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> David Kirsh
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:00 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: No "venom", no mud
>
> I'd appreciate if people try to stay civil.
>
> I have my own strong opinions but I think it would be wise to avoid terms
> that do nothing except anger a portion of the list. Let's keep it concrete
> and specific. If there are particular events or laws that listers want to
> discuss or argue about pertaining to reefs or environment, I think
everyone
> will accept that it's germane to the list.
>
> But I don't think "left", "right", or even "center" communicates anything.
> (For instance, how does one be "moderate" on the subject of torture? Yes,
no
> hot stakes through the foot for me!...just a wee fingernail pulled off the
> left pinky -- we must stick strictly to the center. And come to think of
it,
> Bill Clinton's policies were demonstrably to the right of Dick Nixon's,
> under whom the EPA was founded).
>
> I DO think it's fair game to discuss how current policies and practices
are
> rapidly destroying major portions of the environment in which our favorite
> creatures live. And how that's not just an inconvenience to our hobbies
but
> has dire implications for the whole world. Etc, etc.
>
> But let's use discourse that doesn't alienate and infuriate needlessly.
> Please.
>
> David Kirsh
> Durham, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> Man's attitude toward nature is today critically important simply because
we
> have now acquired a fateful power to alter and destroy nature. - Rachel
> Carson, early 1960s
>
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