I found two at 80' on rocky reef off Key West in 2004.
Regards,
Mike Schenk
On Aug 2, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Emilio F Garcia <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I have three lots of Murexul oxytatus dredged in SW Florida between 39 and 65 m of water; one lot in 2006 and 2 in 2014.
>
> Emilio
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Piech" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 4:16:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] localities for Murexsul oxytatus in E Florida
>
> As a follow-up to Harry's post, here are some personal observations and
> other comments, primarily about the range of Murexsul oxytatus. This past
> June I found a good number of live M. oxytatus in the middle Florida Keys,
> ocean side in 2-6 feet of water, always on a hard surface, usually covered
> with a thin layer of fine silt. I have also found them live on hard reef,
> off southeast Florida, as reported by others, and in multiple other northern
> Caribbean locations, but always on a hard surface. In American Seashells
> Abbott lists the range of M. oxytatus as "Florida and the West Indies." In
> Murex Shells of the World, Radwin & D'Attilio list the range as "southern
> Florida to the southern Caribbean." I have never personally found live M.
> oxytatus on sand. I have found a few dead ones on sand, but this was near
> reef. Since there have been no recent reports of M. oxytatus from Kice
> Island, Sanibel Island and points further north on the Florida Gulf coast,
> which have been seriously collected for many decades, it seems likely that
> the habitat along the southwest Florida coast does not support a breeding
> population of them. It is my understanding that the sea floor along the
> southwest coast of Florida is primarily sandy bottom with little reef. This
> has certainly been the case the very few times that I have been scuba diving
> off Sanibel/Captiva. If more knowledgeable people have a different
> understanding of the seabed off SW Florida, please let me know. Marlo
> Krisberg of Let's Talk Seashells has apparently not done one of his
> excellent photo essays on this species, which would be fun to see, since
> this species can vary in color and shape (to a small degree). As an aside,
> the BMNSM collection lists 38 lots of Murexsul oxytatus, of which two lots
> of one shell each are listed as follows, #51708: "W. of Tampa", unknown
> collector & date and #70644: "Off Egmont Key, St. Petersburg", unknown
> collector, 1962. In light of my comments above, the locality data for these
> two lots seems uncertain. Does anyone on this forum have personal
> experience with collecting M. oxytatus off the west coast of Florida? Any
> feedback, on-list or off-list will be appreciated. Thanks, Ken
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> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Harry Lee
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:10 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] localities for Murexsul oxytatus in E Florida
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> The jaxshells website confirms the Biscayne Bay <
> http://www.jaxshells.org/biscayne.htm
> <http://www.jaxshells.org/biscayne.htm> > and Lake Worth Lagoon (Peanut
> Island < http://www.jaxshells.org/peanut.htm
> <http://www.jaxshells.org/peanut.htm> >, just S. of Richard's find) and adds
> (introduction only) Coral Cove < http://www.jaxshells.org/coralcove.htm
> <http://www.jaxshells.org/coralcove.htm> >
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> North and West of these SE Florida reports, i.e., Hobe Sound <
> http://www.jaxshells.org/hobes.htm <http://www.jaxshells.org/hobes.htm> >,
> NE Florida < http://www.jaxshells.org/marine.htm
> <http://www.jaxshells.org/marine.htm> > Kice Island <
> http://www.jaxshells.org/kice.htm <http://www.jaxshells.org/kice.htm> >,
> Sanibel (BMSM): < http://www.shellmuseum.org/shells/southwest-florida-shells
> <http://www.shellmuseum.org/shells/southwest-florida-shells> >, and NW
> Florida < http://www.jaxshells.org/nwfla.htm
> <http://www.jaxshells.org/nwfla.htm> >, the species has escaped notice.
>
> The Port Canaveral scallop dump record may indicate submergence of the
> species in the more temperate Carolinian subprovince.
>
> Harry
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> At 12:27 AM 8/2/2015, Richard wrote:
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> Hi there!
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> I recently found a very fresh dead specimen with good color and spines in
> the beach drift in John U. Lloyd State Park (Dania Beach), at the far north
> end right next to the Jetty Pavilion.
>
> Happy Shelling - Richard
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> _____
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> I collected a small number of Muricopsis oxytatus in the 1970's under rocks
> in shallow water at Bear Cut, Key Biscayne, Fl. I sold my entire collection
> of Shells this past Jan. - could have been from my collection but my Shells
> had data. Carol Brunner
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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> Steve Rosenthal <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> I recently obtained a number of Murexsul/Muricopsis oxytatus from an old
> Florida collection made in the late 1970s-early 1980s. There was no data
> label. The shells are likely from 1 or 2 of 4 locations where most of the
> material in this collection was from, ie the original collector doesn't
> remember well enough to be sure.....
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> 1. Port Canaveral Scallop Piles
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> 2. Bear Cut (Key Biscayne), Miami, shallow water
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> 3. Dania Beach dredging/beach restoration project 1977
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> 4. Miami Beach dredging/beach restoration project 1979-1980
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> I would guess localities 3 and/or 4 are more likely. Can some of the FL
> collectors/divers tell me if they found this shell in areas or situations
> and/or times that correspond or correlate to any of the above? Thanks,
> Steve
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