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Thanks, Clair, that’s good news for Sanibel at least. I thought Sanibel had gotten massive fish kills in recent weeks.

David Kirsh, LPC, RN

Sent from my iPhone


> On Oct 6, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Clair Beckmann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> As of the local news last night Red Tide was in Charlotte Harbor and Ft Myers beach at moderate levels. No red tide on Sanibel or Causeway Islands. I have seen no major mollusk mortality here on sanibel. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
> 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Harry et al,
>> 
>> As Harry knows, I am not in fastidious edit mode when I type emails,
>> especially on a small keyboard on a small computer with a tricky
>> caps/cap lock key.....  However any taxonomic (Latin) errors are to be
>> ascribed elsewhere as the bulk of my email was a cut and paste from
>> the FWC red tide report.
>> 
>> Regarding the actual impacts of the red tide, perhaps Ken Piech or
>> others can comment if there continues to be any unusual apparent
>> molluscan mortality down there still.
>> 
>> SR
>> 
>>> On 10/5/18, José H. Leal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> "Basionym *Gymnodinium breve* ..."
>>> _______________________________________________________
>>> José H. Leal, Ph.D., Science Director & Curator
>>> Bailey-Matthews National Shell Museum
>>> Editor, The Nautilus
>>> 
>>> 3075 Sanibel-Captiva Road
>>> Sanibel, FL 33957 USA
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>>> 
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> As of the local news last night Red Tide was in Charlotte Harbor and Ft Myers beach at moderate levels. No red tide on Sanibel or Causeway Islands. I have seen no major mollusk mortality here on sanibel. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone without schpel check
> 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Harry et al,
>> 
>> As Harry knows, I am not in fastidious edit mode when I type emails,
>> especially on a small keyboard on a small computer with a tricky
>> caps/cap lock key.....  However any taxonomic (Latin) errors are to be
>> ascribed elsewhere as the bulk of my email was a cut and paste from
>> the FWC red tide report.
>> 
>> Regarding the actual impacts of the red tide, perhaps Ken Piech or
>> others can comment if there continues to be any unusual apparent
>> molluscan mortality down there still.
>> 
>> SR
>> 
>>> On 10/5/18, José H. Leal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> "Basionym *Gymnodinium breve* ..."
>>> _______________________________________________________
>>> José H. Leal, Ph.D., Science Director & Curator
>>> Bailey-Matthews National Shell Museum
>>> Editor, The Nautilus
>>> 
>>> 3075 Sanibel-Captiva Road
>>> Sanibel, FL 33957 USA
>>> (239)395-2233
>>> 
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is confidential, may be
>>> privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the
>>> intended recipient, please notify the sender ASAP and delete this message
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:22 PM Harry Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> One wonders how come you go to the trouble of to capitalizing the words
>>>> "Red Tide" and "NOT" but not "i," "steven," and "rosenthal." Have you
>>>> developed a double standard or is it metaphoric modesty?
>>>> 
>>>> I take it another of your begrudged capital letters, "K." [no italics to
>>>> simulate what may be a keyboard or programmatic shortcoming] stands for
>>>> *Karenia
>>>> *<http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=233015>
>>>> <http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=233015>, the
>>>> genus into which the principal red tide agent (basionym *Gymnodidium
>>>> breve* Davis, 1948; e.g., <http://www.jaxshells.org/mollusk2.htm>
>>>> <http://www.jaxshells.org/mollusk2.htm>) has been transferred. Note that
>>>> the the nomenclatorial convention used for the Kingdom Chromista, like
>>>> that
>>>> of that of our botanist buddies, exalt the author who placed the
>>>> species-level taxon in the currently-accepted genus and relegate the guy
>>>> who did the original heavy-lifting to parentheses. Those who demean the
>>>> complexities of the International Code of *Zoological* [emphasis added]
>>>> Nomenclature should be thankful they're not operating under the
>>>> cumbersome
>>>> constraints of those taxonomists working with non-animal biota.
>>>> 
>>>> Your grammatical gadfly/conchological cohort,
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/4/2018 5:38 PM, steve rosenthal wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> re Red Tides - the FLorida wildlife commision (FWC) issues a weekly
>>>> report, you can access it by googling "Florida Red Tide Report"> I
>>>> will past the most recent one below (Atlantic coast is indeed
>>>> mentioned)  that i just looked up.  Note that various sites for Lee
>>>> County offer info on Red Tides, one i viewed recently implied that all
>>>> was well, but its NOT according to the FWC site...  i would NOT trust
>>>> anything that is  coming from local sites with a commercial stake.
>>>> 
>>>> Red Tide Mid-Week Update for October 3, 2018
>>>> Current Conditions
>>>> A bloom of the Florida red tide organism, Karenia brevis, persists in
>>>> Southwest Florida and extends along ~135 miles of coastline, from
>>>> northern Pinellas to northern Collier counties, and offshore (10 miles
>>>> or more). A patchy bloom of K. brevis continues in Northwest Florida.
>>>> A bloom of K. brevis was also observed on Florida’s East Coast for the
>>>> first time this past week. Additional details are provided below.
>>>> 
>>>> Over the past week in Southwest Florida, K. brevis concentrations
>>>> generally decreased in areas of Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee and
>>>> Collier counties, creating patchier bloom conditions along the coast.
>>>> Observations of >1,000,000 K. brevis cells per liter (“high”
>>>> concentrations) occurred in Pinellas, Hillsborough, Sarasota, and Lee
>>>> counties and >10 miles offshore of Hillsborough County, but at fewer
>>>> sites relative to last week.
>>>> In Northwest Florida, K. brevis was observed in or offshore of
>>>> Okaloosa, Walton, Bay, Gulf, and Pasco counties, with up to “medium”
>>>> concentrations observed in Bay County and offshore of Walton County.
>>>> On the East Coast, K. brevis was observed in St. Lucie, Martin and
>>>> Palm Beach counties; up to “medium” concentrations occurred only in
>>>> and offshore of Palm Beach County.
>>>> Fish Kills
>>>> In Southwest Florida, reports of fish kills were received for multiple
>>>> locations in Pinellas, Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee and Collier
>>>> counties. In Northwest Florida, reports of fish kills were received
>>>> for areas in and/or offshore of Okaloosa, Walton, Bay, Gulf and
>>>> Franklin counties. Along the East Coast of Florida, reports of fish
>>>> kills were received for St. Lucie and Palm Beach counties.
>>>> 
>>>> Respiratory Irritation
>>>> Respiratory irritation was reported in Southwest Florida (in Pinellas,
>>>> Manatee, Sarasota, Lee and Collier counties) and along the East Coast
>>>> of Florida (in Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties) over the past week.
>>>> 
>>>> Forecast
>>>> Forecasts by the USF-FWC Collaboration for Prediction of Red
>>>> TidesExternal Website for Pinellas to northern Monroe counties predict
>>>> northwestern transport of surface waters and net southeastern movement
>>>> of subsurface waters for most areas over the next three days.
>>>> Three-day forecasts for Northwest Florida predict minimal net
>>>> transport of surface waters and northeastern movement of subsurface
>>>> waters from Escambia to western Gulf counties. Forecasts for Pasco
>>>> County predict northwestern transport of surface waters and eastern
>>>> movement of subsurface waters over the next 3 days.
>>>> 
>>>> The next complete red tide status report will be posted on Friday, October
>>>> 5th.
>>>> 
>>>> Red Tide Status Map (October 3, 2018)
>>>> 09-25-10-02.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/4/18, Karlynn Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> According to reports I've received, Portsmouth, Ocracoke and Shackleford
>>>> Islands are open.  I've seen photos of a huge beach haul from
>>>> Portsmouth.   No Red Tide reports from NC - Good Luck!
>>>> 
>>>> Karlynn
>>>> NC - USA
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/4/2018 5:06 PM, David Kirsh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone been to the NC coastline post Florence? In the last week or
>>>> so?
>>>> Are there places that are passable for collecting?
>>>> 
>>>> In a different area: I saw one report that the Red Tide on Florida’s
>>>> southwest is not only severe and continuing but is forecast to possibly
>>>> last into the winter tourist season. I also heard another report that Red
>>>> Tide has reached the Atlantic Coast. Have others heard about this
>>>> continuing through the winter months?
>>>> 
>>>> David Kirsh, LPC, RN
>>>> 
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