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Charles Sturm <[log in to unmask]>
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And there are 10 types of people, those who know binary code and those who
do not.


> If God had wanted us to use the metric system he would have given us ten
> fingers and toes.
>
>
> G. Thomas Watters, PhD
> Curator of Molluscs
> Department of Evolution, Ecology and Organismal Biology
> The Ohio State University
> 1315 Kinnear Rd., Columbus, OH 43212 USA
> v: 614-292-6170; f: 614-292-7774
>
> Visit the Division at:
> http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~molluscs/OSUM2
>
> "The world is my oyster, except for months with an R in them" - Firesign
> Theatre
>
> "I have the world's largest collection of seashells. I keep it on all the
> beaches of the world. Perhaps you've seen it." - Steven Wright
> ________________________________
> From: Conchologists List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of
> Callomon,Paul [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:34 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [CONCH-L] Date formats
>
> The European system - day, month, year (smallest to largest) makes sense.
> The Japanese/Chinese system – Year, month day (largest to smallest) makes
> sense too. The US system (medium/smallest/largest) makes no sense
> whatsoever. This is, let us remember, one of three countries that still
> has not officially adopted the metric system. The others are Burma and
> Liberia.
>
>
>
> From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Fabio Moretzsohn
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Amateurs in the field: How may they help?
>
>
> I like the Japanese notation for dates, with the year first, followed by
> month and day:
> 2013-09-10
>
> If you start with the year, then you can safely guess that next is month
> (I don't know any format that uses year-day-month). This is particularly
> helpful in my case because the date format in Brazil (where I was born)
> and in the U.S. (where I live)  are prone to confusion, as pointed out by
> Charlie.
>
> But the best part of the Japanese system, in my opinion, is that you can
> easily sort in a computer without any special instructions, i.e., a
> regular sorting (alphabetical) also sorts chronologically.
>
> Fabio M.
> On Sep 10, 2013 6:21 AM, "Charles Sturm"
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> This is a source of confusion. To most from the US 3/2/2013 would be March
> the second 2013. In most of the rest of the world this would be the third
> day of the second month (Feb) 2013.
>
> Either writing the month out or using Roman Numerals for the month works.
> If the date is the 13th or above you can be sure of what the collector
> meant, if the date is from 1-12 there will be uncertainty unless you use
> one of these conventions which were described by other posters.
>
>
>> "-          Also write out date (U.S. month comes first)"
>> I guess you mean: write out the month (11 December 2013). Alternatively,
>> write the month in Roman numerals (11.XII.2013). It's language-neutral.
>> In any case, write clearly.
>> Marien
>>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 02:21:35 +0000
>> From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Amateurs in the field: How may they help?
>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, Mike.
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing your talk at the club.  I read my emails
>> backwards today to get down to your post.  The only things I might
>> consider that are missing
>>  are:
>> -
>> Don’t abbreviate locality information (e.g. “CO” could mean “care of”,
>> “county”, “company”, etc.)
>> -
>> Also write out date (U.S. month comes first)
>> -
>> Fixation- you must relax the specimen first before live preserving it or
>> it will retreat into it’s shell or close tightly (i.e. “clam up”). There
>>  are various fixatives but epsom salts is the easiest to acquire.
>> Freezing slowly also works.  Check out the book in question
>> -
>> Legality- Make yourself aware of current collecting laws in the area you
>> are visiting. Also transport and customs.  This type of information is
>> often
>>  very difficult to acquire easily.  I frequently just ship my  specimens
>> home with expedited shipping in bags within bags (aquarium store bags
>> that tie NOT zip lock).  Leave ¾ of the bag empty (i.e. with oxygen) for
>> the trip.  There are also bags called “breather
>>  bags” which allow air passage but not water passage.  If you use these
>> fill all the way with water.
>> -
>> Spread your lots and transport each by more than one method.  If any get
>> damaged, lost, or taken by customs, you still have some left.
>> -
>> Make locality information as specific as possible.  Ideally, someone
>> reading your label should be able to visit the exact spot where you
>> collected.
>> -
>> More field notebook information: identifier (if not you), preservation
>> type, collecting method(s), scientific name (if you know it), other
>> collectors
>>  besides yourself,
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Jay Cordeiro
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Regards,
> Charlie
> .................................................
> Charlie Sturm
>
> Treasurer
> American Malacological Society
>
> Research Associate - Section of Mollusks
> Carnegie Museum of Natural History
> Pittsburgh, PA, USA
>
> Associate Professor - Family Medicine
> Fellow-American Academy of Family Practice
> Fellow-Academy of Wilderness Medicine
>
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Regards,
Charlie
.................................................
Charlie Sturm

Treasurer
American Malacological Society

Research Associate - Section of Mollusks
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
Pittsburgh, PA, USA

Associate Professor - Family Medicine
Fellow-American Academy of Family Practice
Fellow-Academy of Wilderness Medicine

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