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None of the examples below are like my two shells. 
Rick

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From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Martin Eastburn
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Harpa gracilis protoconch colour

While living on Kwajalein, we collected Harpa amouretta in 1963 and qualified it in 3 of our books.
Martin Eastburn

On 1/14/2015 8:34 AM, Chong Chen wrote:
> Thanks Marlo. I have seen a great variety in the form of H. amouretta 
> including the slender form as well as various intermediates.
>
> A quick google search will reveal a number of slender specimens, for 
> example http://www.gastropods.com/2/Shell_122.shtml
> http://koghisberg.com/?p=3944
> http://www.schnr-specimen-shells.com/35649.JPG
> http://www.conchology.be/?t=68&u=886353&g=1b0cd83e15aaddada2c0195478bc
> 058b&q=c87e7c3942ff38191e699c6a2fcdff89
> http://www.marinelifephotography.com/marine/mollusks/gastropods/olives
> /harpa-amouretta.htm 
> http://www.shellbrothers.be/images/Harpidae/amouretta%20Indonesia%201,
> 5%20(2).JPG
>
> The specimens range all the way from eastern Africa to Hawaii -- it is 
> only a form of H. amouretta.
>
> Regarding H. kolaceki, I would agree that it is only a form of H.
> amouretta as well.
>
> Best,
> Chong
>
> 2015-01-14 14:22 GMT+00:00  <[log in to unmask]>:
>> I have to go with H. amouretta for Rick's shells.  I've documented this conversation on LTS (http://z14.invisionfree.com/Conchologist_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2894) with Rick's photos (and permission) and added photos of a H. amouretta from the Solomons in my collection.  While there are are some overall shape differences, with my shell more closely resembling forma crassa, I cannot see how Rick's shells can be distinguished as other than a normal, local, regional variation for the species.
>>
>> marlo
>>
>> ---- Tom Eichhorst <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I agree with Rick.  While the shells he illustrated may not be H.
>>> gracilis, they are certainly unlike any of the H. amouretta I have 
>>> (another 30 specimens to that 50).
>>>
>>> Tom E.
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