I guess I must have missed the original email with the "offensive
terminology."   Would someone repost it?


Marlo

-----Original Message-----
From: Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
David Kirsh
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: No "venom", no mud

I'd appreciate if people try to stay civil.

I have my own strong opinions but I think it would be wise to avoid terms
that do nothing except anger a portion of the list. Let's keep it concrete
and specific. If there are particular events or laws that listers want to
discuss or argue about pertaining to reefs or environment, I think everyone
will accept that it's germane to the list.

But I don't think "left", "right", or even "center" communicates anything.
(For instance, how does one be "moderate" on the subject of torture? Yes, no
hot stakes through the foot for me!...just a wee fingernail pulled off the
left pinky -- we must stick strictly to the center. And come to think of it,
Bill Clinton's policies were demonstrably to the right of Dick Nixon's,
under whom the EPA was founded).

I DO think it's fair game to discuss how current policies and practices are
rapidly destroying major portions of the environment in which our favorite
creatures live. And how that's not just an inconvenience to our hobbies but
has dire implications for the whole world. Etc, etc.

But let's use discourse that doesn't alienate and infuriate needlessly.
Please.

David Kirsh
Durham, NC





Man's attitude toward nature is today critically important simply because we
have now acquired a fateful power to alter and destroy nature. - Rachel
Carson, early 1960s

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