I have three question marks in my brain myself.
1. The sea level isn't changing radically, Micronesia isn't sinking.
   The islands are only a few feet of coral above sea level.
    Kwajalein where I lived would trickle at a High High tide of +6 feet.
   There isn't an indication that the mean tide is rising.

2. I understood that the termite produces more CO2 in 'gas' as it digests
   wooden material - and having the rain forest chopped and burned -
   one has to wonder to what effect ?  Not much is said.

3. - The Ozone layer was attacked some years ago - just before
     those in the Andes were getting a higher rate of cancer.  Not much
     said about the massive super nova in the southern sky.  I read reports
     (physics type as I am) about high energy particles flying into each
     polar region (magnetic poles attract charged particles) and a general
     shower over all.  The mysterious holes begin to appear soon thereafter.

Hum.  I think we should do better, save liquid hydrocarbon and become
cleaner,
but I don't think we should kill off the human race in the process, nor
make
it draconian.

Martin

mike gray wrote:
> John Varner wrote:
>>
>> Mike, Bob and John, this prevarication is odd stuff.
>>
>> First:  There is a lot of "non-controversial" information in the report
>> on rising CO2 that might be of interest regarding the geography, weather
>> patterns, faunal distribution, etc. of the Indo Pacific.  Dismissing it
>> en toto because of  doubts about global warming and its impact seems a
>> bit unfortunate.......
>>
>> Second:  Temperature fluctuation was not the major thrust of the report
>> on CO2, it was acidification of the oceans and the impact it and other
>> development activities (clearing of mangroves, discharge of sewage,
>> over-fishing etc.) are having on the health of coral & sea grass
>> habitats world wide and especially in the Coral Triangle.  The data on
>> CO2 concentrations over time spans a much longer time frame and is much
>> more reliable than temperature data, and it shows a dramatic, decidedly
>> unnatural rise since the dawn of the industrial age.  Whether or not one
>> believes in the notion that this will result in warming (and those who
>> doubt this are a small and shrinking minority) the chemistry of the
>> situation is that increased CO2 is rapidly acidifying the oceans to a
>> degree that organisms that rely on calcium carbonate deposition will not
>> survive.
>>
>> John Varner
>
> I don't deny that increasing CO2 is man-caused and has potential
> negative consequences.
>
> What bothers me is the "sky is falling" panic which, when proven not
> panic-worthy, results in abandonment of the problem and loss of public
> interest in a solution.
>
> We started talking about a national energy policy in the Carter days.
> Except for a few weeks when gas prices spike or supplies fall, it has
> never been taken seriously. We've had a huge increase in the number of
> nuclear plants, but every one of them is powering a naval vessel; none
> are generating electricity, none are producing hydrogen, none are
> reducing our dependence on the fossil fuels that produce the CO2. And
> our latest president is promoting coal. COAL! How short-sighted can we
> be????
>
> Unless our people, our media, our scientists, and our government can
> tackle big problems with long term solutions, there will be no progress.
> Our people have severe ADD. Our media focuses on the sensation of the
> day. Our scientists just want a piece of the latest grant stream. Our
> government is too busy getting re-elected.
>
> CO2 is far too big a problem for species sapiens to deal with. Perhaps
> the species that supplants us will have better luck.
>
> m
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