Quite different except the three first syllabes!
> As well as for all families belonging to the superfamily Muricoidea!
> Patrice Bail

>> Can I get some discussion of putting Volutomitra in my Volute
>> collection?

 On 16/12/2008, John Wolff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Harry Lee, whose knowledge and memory far exceeds mine reminded me
> that Volutomitridae dates from Iredale and McMichael (1962). The
> subfamily name Volutomitrinae dates from Gray (1854), and all authors
> over the ensuing years maintained it as a subfamily, variously in
> Volutidae and Mitridae. Indeed, Cernohorsky (1970:90) devotes an
> entire page to the convoluted history of the subfamily and related genera.
>
> Cernohorsky, 1970 was the first publication on mitrids that I
> obtained, and that probably led to my storing my (very few)
> Volutomitridae together with Mitridae.
>
> Anyone else interested in these critters? How about Pleioptygmatidae?
> Must we keep those separate?
> John

Cernohorsky messed this paper up, as was his usual way.  He wasn't
sure about the identity of Latiromitra and places the New Zealand
species problematica here; it plainly belongs in Metzgeria,
Turbinellidae (or is that Ptychatractidae?). Be very wary... WOC was
not a careful worker and often misidentified taxa. His nassariine work
is also suspect.
Latiromitra itself is probably not a volutomitrid, but a
ptychatractine/id. It usually goes under a synonym which I can't
remember at present, or is misplaced in Benthovoulta (a synonym of
Exilia). Anyway, Volutomitridae is definitely a distinct family.

Oh, by the way, I keep seeing Waimatea being used for some down-under
species... this is a synonym of Volutomitra and is based on an Eocene
fossil from NZ, which differs in no way from typical Volutomitra.

Some workers still insist on using  superfamily Volutoidea (in
addition to "Buccinoidea"), when these have been synonymized with
Muricoidea (heck, some still insist on using the incorrect old -acea
ending.

Families belonging in Muricoidea:
Muricidae (=Typhinae, Coralliophilinae)
Buccinidae (=Fasciolariinae, Melongeninae, Nassariinae,
"Cominellidae", "Neptuneidae", "Buccinulidae")
Perissityidae (subfamily of Buccinidae?)
Columbellidae
Turbinellidae (=Vasidae)
Ptychatractidae
Volutomitridae
Costellariidae
Mitridae
Volutidae
Pseudolividae
Babyloniidae
Strepturidae
Olividae
Olivellidae
Cysticidae
Marginellidae

(Personally, I am not too convinced by the validity of Olivellidae and
Cysticidae).

Turbinellidae is a nice transitional group between
Muricidae/Buccinidae and "Volutoidea".

--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin, New Zealand
Fossil preparator
Mollusc, Toyota & VW van nut

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