slightly off topic...but in the same vein.....if you live east of the
Mississippi River....how many monarch butterflies have you seen this
year? that ubiquitous  species is (not so ) suddenly in trouble too,

On 9/28/13, John Varner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Two years ago on Eleuthera, I spoke with some conch fishermen working on a
> heap of L. gigas being prepped for sale in Gregorytown.  There were at least
> 100 full grown specimens, and this was just one day's catch.  They go out a
> few days a week.  Fresh cleaned conch meat @ $2/conch (more than an entree's
> worth) on Eleuthera made for a great meal of conch ceviche.  The shells are
> dumped like trash or used as building material.   ( a bit heart-wrenching
> for a shell collector!)  It's hard to know if the specie will end up being
> overfished in the Bahamas as it was in the FL Keys - there are an awful lot
> of shoals with algae patches ideal for conch in between all those islands.
> But the conchers report they now have to go several miles out to find them
> in large numbers.
> Humans did manage to exterminate the passenger pigeon, which once darkened
> the skies in the US with flocks in the millions, and we nearly wiped out the
> buffalo....
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> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:45:24 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Lobatus gigas
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> Appendix II, so you need an export permit, but not necessarily an import
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> http://www.cites.org/eng/disc/how.php
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> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Ed and Susan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Lobatus gigas is on the CITES (Convention on International Trade in
> Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) list and therefore importing it
> it into this country  is prohibited without a species CITES permit,
> regardless of whether the individual specimen was collected live or dead.
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> If customs know what is in the package, they will confiscate it for sure.
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