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Re: Harpa gracilis protoconch colour
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steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:13:16 -0500
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Several of my friends and I have wondered about these same issues with
H. kolaceki,, never having seen  the original description.

 might it be possible for someone here  to provide a link to, or scan
of, that journal article?



On 1/13/15, Moshe Erlendur Okon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Shalom Rick,
> *Harpa gracilis *is the only Harp with a white protoconch, clearly
> distinguishing it from all other Harps, whose protoconchs are pink to
> brown. Other differentiating characteristics are the shallow umbilicus,
> slender form and no shoulder on the body whorl.
> The Harps in the links you sent are, therefore, clearly not *gracilis*.
> They are *amouretta*, as stated by others.
> Dealers sometimes use the name *gracilis *for (or in relation to)
> non-gracilis shells for obvious reasons.
> Regarding *H. kolaceki*, even Poppe, on his auction site selling it,
> mentioned that it is a "doubtful" species. May very well be a form of
> *amouretta*.
> Best wishes, Moshe Erlendur
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Rick Negus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Franck
>>
>> Where would you place these shells?
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARPA-SPECIES-33-49mm-BEAUTIFUL-RARE-HYBRID-SPECIMEN-Solomon-Islands-/381102272797?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARPA-SPECIES-41-19mm-BEAUTIFUL-RARE-HYBRID-SPECIMEN-Solomon-Islands-/381119923371?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Conchologists List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf
>> Of *Franck Frydman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:17 AM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [CONCH-L] Harpa gracilis protoconch colour
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Moshe,
>>
>> I have never seen a H. gracilis with a purple protoconch.
>>
>> By the way, in the description of H. kolaceki the colour of the
>> protoconch
>> is not even mentioned.
>>
>>
>>
>> Franck Frydman
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