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Bernd Sahlmann <[log in to unmask]>
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Dear David,

if you can´t get the article, I would be able to scan it for you and help
you with the german language. We do have this journal (along with many
others) in the shell museum at Cismar, nearby. You can retrieve our list at:
http://www.hausdernatur.de/journals.htm

Best regards

Bernd Sahlmann


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Campbell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Help finding Hazay paper on European freshwater
mollusks


> Based on the title, this is probably what I'm after.  Malakozoologishe
> Blatter is, in large part at least, scanned in Google Books, so I can
> probably find it as long as the particular pages weren't screwed up.
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Maassen, W.J.M.
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> David
>>
>> Hazay wrote in 1883 a publication: Die Nouvelle Ecole beleuchtet durch
>> Dr.Georg Servain's Histoire Malacologique du Lac Balaton. It is published
>> in: Malakozoologische Blätter, Neue Folge, vol. 6: 179-197.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> W.J.M.Maassen
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Van: Conchologists List namens David Campbell
>> Verzonden: di 3-2-2009 21:32
>> Aan: [log in to unmask]
>> Onderwerp: [CONCH-L] Help finding Hazay paper on European freshwater
>> mollusks
>>
>>
>>
>> I am trying to find a paper written between 1881 and 1905 by Hazay on
>> Hungarian (and possibly other central European) freshwater mollusks;
>> he probably would have mentioned land snails, too.  Unfortunately, I
>> don't have better bibliographic information than that.
>>
>> In the late 1800's to early 1900's, a group of malacologists known as
>> the "Nouvelle Ecole" (acute accent should be on the first E of Ecole)
>> named every variation in nonmarine mollusks that they found.  This
>> resulted in huge lists of synonyms.  However, occasionally a
>> previously undescribed form would get a name, too.  Thus, it is
>> necessary when dealing with one of the faunas they treated to try to
>> identify their taxa.
>>
>> Servain (1881) named numerous genera and species in a paper on Lake
>> Balaton, in Hungary, almost all of them of doubtful biological value.
>> He did not always identify type species of the genera.  Although in
>> many cases Nouvelle Ecole genera were derived from species names, they
>> were not usually tautonymous, so a later revisor could disregard the
>> recommendation in the Code (if the Code existed at the time of the
>> revisor) and select a type other than the obvious choice.
>>
>> Dall (1905, Harriman Alaska Expedition) reviewed lymnaeids generally.
>> He cited Hazay as an authority for disregarding Servain's taxa as mere
>> ecophenotypic variation.  Baker (1911) essentially quotes Dall on the
>> subject.  However, neither bothered to give a citation for Hazay.  I
>> want to know if Hazay designated type species, or if he just said that
>> Servain's taxa should be ignored, or what.  Does anyone have an idea
>> on the reference or a good bibliography of Central European mollusk
>> publications from 1881 to 1905 or other clues?  There are a few Hazay
>> papers available in Malakolozoologishe Blatter on Google Books, but I
>> haven't tracked down a Servain reference in them yet (not helped by my
>> rather limited knowledge of German, and there's always the possibiity
>> that he did not explicitly mention Servain by name but simply made
>> passing derogatory comments-sentiments for or against the Nouvelle
>> Ecole tended to be strong).
>>
>> Kruglov and Starobogatov give later type designations, but they might
>> have overlooked something early.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. David Campbell
>> 425 Scientific Collections
>> University of Alabama
>> "I think of my happy condition, surrounded by acres of clams"
>>
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