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"Frederick W. Schueler" <[log in to unmask]>
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Pete Krull quoted:

> Wilson & Brown were not herpetologists and certainly not snake scale
> counters.

* but they were myrmecologists, in an era in which Ants were beset with
infraspecific taxa to an inordinate degree.

> Many many turtle, snake and lizard subspecies have areas
> where they intergrade.

* Brown's Rule only applies to cases where the zone of intergradation
hasn't been studied, and the subspecies lines are drawn in breaks in the
variation, which also happen to be breaks in the available specimens.

> The Eastern Box turtle is an excellent example.
> It has an eastern race: /Terrapene carolina carolina/, a three-toed
> race: /T. c. triunguis/, the Gulf Coast race: /T. c. major/, and a
> Floridian race: /T. c. baueri/.  The ranges are contiguous and there are
> extensive intergrade zones.  However, few if any herpetologists would
> use that as a good reason to call them all /Terrapene carolina/.

* in many cases, these are just cases of gradual geographic variation,
as when some scale count is the only classical quantitative feature on a
Snake, and there's no indication that the variation in the one of the
few features which can be assessed really delimits taxonomically
significant portions of the species. In other cases, they're species
complexes, without any significant gene flow among the species, even
when there are some hybrids found (as in Leopard Frogs).

Jim Rising and I suggested (Schueler and Rising. 1976. Phenetic evidence
of natural hybridization.  Systematic Zoology 25:283-289) that only when
there's increased variability in a zone of free intergradation should
the variation be used to delimit subspecies, since the increased
variability indicates that the intergrades are hybrids, and the
"hybridity" indicates that the hybridizing entities are "real" taxa.
This hasn't been widely accepted. From what I know of them, I suspect
that the Terrapene carolina case is one of "real" subspecies: taxa which
are as different as species might be, but hybridize where they come into
contact.

> The problem with /Melongena corona/ (/sensu lato/) is that in the Recent
> its range is more or less linear.  However, during the Pleistocene there
> had to be several times where this linear array was disrupted and then
> rejoined.  Many of the problems likely result from that.  I think
> including all king crowns in /M. corona/ would be just as wrong as
> considering all eastern box turtles, /T. carolina/.  Just because
> something is hard does not mean it should be avoided.

* but the subspecies is the only infraspecific category recognized in
zoology. It was developed by ornithologists working with continuous or
contiguous continental (2-d) variation among Bird populations, and
various other zoologists, who often work with very different kinds of
among-population variation, are stuck with it. Botanists have more
freedom with formal categories, but in one-dimensional or ecophenotypic
or complexly 2-d cases, zoologists, whether they "believe" in subspecies
or not, have got to fall back on the informal names which Wilson & Brown
recommend be used for classes of similar populations that one wishes to
discuss.

> Finally for all those interested in attributing variation in shell
> morphology in /M. corona/ to some ecotypic magic.  I would ask that you
> please demonstrate this experimentally.  If /M. sprucecreekensis/ does
> not have oysters to eat, I think it starves rather than growing up to be
> an /M. c. altispira.  /

* this would suggest that these are species, however genetically
homogeneous their mitochondria may be.

fred.
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