OK i just pulled one of these permits off a prevously opened carton of
shells from a very well known PI dealer. i think several different
issues are involved here, but on this specific one  to the permit per
se, the BFAR permit is  an export permit for species not covered under
CITES (there is a rubber stamp to that effect on the permit, and i
made sure to obtain the same stamp on my permits when i was there)...,
so theoretically at least the shells in question were presumably "not
in danger of extinction".

At times some dealers have referred to a longer list of specific
species, some rare and some not so rare , eg Conus gloriamaris was on
the list, that was put out or floated about by the PI government, in
addition to CITES species, that were off limits supposedly to
sell/export,  eg i know for some time some prominent dealers would not
include these shells on their offerings. Now i see all the species
offered so i dont know what exactly if anything was up with that.

Perhaps some of the dealers from there can comment further...

On 5/5/14, Franck Frydman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> "I would further assume that if you can afford the prices of theauction
> shells and postage, you can handle 4 euros.": Of course.
> However I have just found this info:The BFAR tax concerns "sea shells in
> danger of extinction"
> (http://www.bfar.da.gov.ph/pages/legislation/IRR_8550.html) which is NOT
> the
> case for most specimen shells in the Philippines.
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> From: steve rosenthal
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 6:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] BFAR permit tax for specimen shells in the
> Philippines?
>
> a number of FIllipino dealers on the same auction site you probably
> refer to now do it. When you visit there, you need to (or very much
> should) get a similar permit to take shells out of the country... The
> permit is attached to the package when it comes, so it is a real
> expense you can see. I would imagine that any who dont ask for the
> payment are willing to absorb the cost themselves and/or have built it
> into the prices they ask.
>
> I would further assume that if you can afford the prices of the
> auction shells and postage, you can handle 4 euros.
>
>
>
>
> On 5/5/14, Franck Frydman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> A Filipino specimen shell dealers asks me to pay a 4 euros BFAR (Bureau
>> of
>> Fisheries and Aquatic Resources) export tax to ship me seashells.
>> So far I have never heard about it and no other Filipino shell dealer
>> seems
>> to asks for it. Moreover it seems that this tax only concerns fish,
>> shrimps
>> etc. so has anybody ever hear about such a taxing for specimen shells in
>> the
>> Philippines?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Franck Frydman
>>
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