Dear colleagues,
The IUCN list is obviously candidate to be in a better shape. Yet, let's
recognize the enormous amount of unpaid work it contains! I see mistakes,
but that is the purpose of placing it online. As a scientist quite
involved in molluscan conservation, I can reassure you that red lists are
extremely useful, and powerful too. Also, I agree that there is a tendency
in some quarters to put every species on such a list! I personally don't
like multiplying regulations beyond the point where complying is
impossible. For most marine species, it would be more than enough to
enforce existing trade and fisheries legislation.
Best wishes,
Cristian R. Altaba
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De: Andrew Grebneff [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Enviado el: miércoles 17 de noviembre de2004 09:54
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Asunto: Re: Endangered list from IUCN
>Hello,
>
>A Red List was published containing several Molluscs
>
>http://www.redlist.org/search/search.php?freetext=mollusca&modifier=phr
ase&criteria=wholedb&taxa_species=1&redlistCategory%5B%5D=allex&country%
5B%5D=all&aquatic%5B%5D=all®ions%5B%5D=all&habitats%5B%5D=all&threats
%5B%5D=all
>
>If the link is not working you can access it directly at
>
>http://www.redlist.org/search/search-basic.html and type in
mollusca
>
>It is a quite complex list and they give the name of the researcher who
>confirmed the endangered situation of each species. Many have a "Mollusc
>Specialist Group " there, so I am not sure who is in this "group".
>
>Of course the list has some mistakes -for example Drymaeus acervatus is a
>plague in São Paulo State, Brazil.
>
>I did not look at the entire list, but it would be a good idea to check it
>and question them about any mistakes. I am pretty sure we know much more
>about shell distribution than many of these "contributors" who stay all
day
>long inside an office.
>
>I see the day every shell will be in one of these lists - unless you
prefer
>to switch to stamps or coins I would suggest to start giving correct
>information to these guys....
>
>Marcus
Problem with red Book & CITES is that many
unendangered spp are listed... including the
entire family Orchidaceae, as an example (yes,
all 30-odd-thousand species). It's a typically
bureaucratic thing... and it not only doesn't
stopvandals & illegal commercial collecting, it
can actually PREVENT conservation/preservation by
not allowing specimens to be collected for
transfer to another habitat in the face of
logging etc. Ban CITES!!
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Fossil preparator
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