Dear Emilio,-
Forgive me for using your space for this inquiry. But you might know--
I have not been able to contact Maria Angioy for quite some time. Does anyone know the status of her family and the "Evolver" publishing house. Without this information, I can't get copies of Shellshocked or The Wentletrap Book.
Thanks for any info.
Art
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---- Emilio Garcia <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Leslie, Harry and listers,
>
> I did paraphrase a comment that Tucker made while he, the Sanibel
> legend Ede Mugridge, and I were sitting around Ede's favorite table
> just chatting. As I remember, Tucker said something like "every shell
> in the western Atlantic has been described, at least twice." I have
> never heard him say it in public and, if he has, I presume, as I
> presumed then,that he did not mean it seriously. And I never heard
> about the second "quote" that Leslie mentions until I read in this
> forum.
>
> In the last few weeks there have been two occasions in which a very
> poor choice of words has been used in connection with two extremely
> well respected malacologists: Dr Carlos de la Torre and Dr. R. Tucker
> Abbott. I have blushed of embarrasement in front of my computer on
> both occasions.
>
> Emilio
>
>
> >Hi Harry
> >It was 1990'ish at AMU in So. Cal., and of course aimed at Dr. Ed Petuch.
> >Although I was not in attendance either, I have heard it from numerous sources
> >who were over the year, and the lines have probably become a bit of urban
> >ledged over the years... Including a lecture a couple weeks back by Dr. Emilio
> >Garcia. (who just so happened to use both of the quotes).
> >
> >Leslie
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------
> >Dear Leslie,
> >I never heard the quotation you cite below. I admit my attendance has
> >been far from perfect at AMU/AMS meetings, however.
> >
> >Can you, or anyone else, give us a better fix on the context and time
> >of this utterance? It seems uncharacteristic of Tucker although he
> >was a conservative taxonomist.
> >
> >Harry
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Hi Art
> >Your right, every species has its day, and waning longevity.
> >Regardless whether it is or was ever once abundant...
> >Not every species will reproduce in sufficient quantities to every be
> >considered abundant. Ant's are abundant, panthers are not...
> >
> >I know you didn't coin the phase I commented on... just propagated it.
> >.. Abbott was fond to the line and used it frequently.
> >He's the same feller who made other stupid blanket statements such as
> >"there are no new species of Molluscs to be described in the Western Atlantic"
> >(made from the podium at an AMU meeting)
> >He also said that anything that was found and thought tobe new had probably
> >already been described at least 3 times.
> >
> >Such rash blanket statements are ultimately riddled with error when taken
> >wholesale, ... and as was in this case, aimed at another Malacologist who was
> >not sitting back on his katookish and was actively describing new species...
> >the vast majority of which have now stood the test of time. While he was
> >locked in his own world of shuffling paper and specimens to create the BMSM,
> >and running a publishing company.
> >
> >Leslie
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Dear Leslie et al;-
> >I shouldn't have used the word "only", and I remember his name as being Norm
> >Paschal.
> >Maybe one reason for rarity (not mentioned as yet) might be evolution.
> >A species may be being replaced by an "upgrade". The older form might then
> >become Rare.
> > Art
> >
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