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sorry to disagree with you guys about the textile but it does eat fish ,
seen it on the "crocodile hunter" about a month back . It might eat both as
so do . Mark James & Peta Susan Bethke
3001 South Ocean Dr. Suite 4-V
Hollywood, Florida
33019-2804
U.S.A.
-----Original Message-----
From: Livett Family <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Conus information
 
 
>Michael asked : "Does anyone have a list of snails that might
>inflict a sting?? "
>
>The following Conus are known to be capable of inflicting a sting:
>C. aulicus
>C. geographus
>C. gloriamaris
>C. omaria
>C. striatus
>C. textile
>C. tulipa
>
>Note that C. textile is a mollusc hunting cone not a fish hunting cone.
>There has been controversy in the past as to the identity of C. textile
>being responsible for human envenomations. An account of some fatal and
>non-fatal human envenomations is given on my Cone Shell and Conotoxins
>HomePage. http://grimwade.biochem.unimelb.edu.au/cone/
>follow the link to "Cone Shells"  and "Revenge of the Killer Snails" or go
>to the direct link at URL
>http://grimwade.biochem.unimelb.edu.au/cone/deathby.html
>
>It is possible but unlikely that an individual would be "hypersensitive" to
>a particular cone shell venom as the active components are small peptide
>conotoxins that act by targeting a variety of different ion channels and
>close down the nervous system. These conotoxins are not known to be
>particularly antigenic.
>
>The accounts given in the links above will provide you with a graphical and
>historical account of Conus envenomation.
>
>Safety Procedures for dealing with envenomation by Conidae are listed at
>http://grimwade.biochem.unimelb.edu.au/cone/1st-aid.html
>
>Take care out there :)
>
>Bruce
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wizzard <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Saturday, 6 March 1999 12:49
>Subject: Re: Conus information
>
>
>>Paul Callomon wrote:
>>>
>>> > P.S. Now, this qeustion is for all on the conch-l. Is Conus tinianus a
>>> > dangerous species? It seems to have a wide
>>> > aperture to me.
>>> Freeze your hand down to the temperature of the surrounding water, coat
>it
>>> with fish oil, sit the C. tinianus on your palm and wait 20-30 minutes,
>>> gently wiggling your pinkie. When the mollusc extends its proboscis,
>wiggle
>>> a bit faster. With any luck, it will harpoon your finger and you will
>find
>>> out. This is about as easy as it is to be stung by a Cone.
>>
>>Unless your'e the kind of collector who occasionally puts shells in a
>>pocket. I have heard of folks being stung by cones and some other shells
>>with names I don't recall. Does anyone have a list of snails that might
>>inflict a sting?? I had heard of some species of snail that had a mild
>>sting but caused a pretty good case of novacaine like numbness. What
>>about other shelling hazards?  I learned to do the "sand shuffle" after
>>stepping on a stingray (some of the worst pain I've ever felt!) in the
>>walking through the eel grass at DeSoto Park in the Clearwater/Tampa Bay
>>area.  A warning might have helped. That would be an interesting thread,
>>let's persue that rather than PC's vs Macs. Michael, Sunrise, FL
>

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