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Not me. 

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> On Sep 21, 2021, at 12:13 PM, steve rosenthal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> I echo Harry's final thought, that a good photograph should be shared
> publicly with experts to rule out similar species, there are so many,
> many faulty wentletrap IDs out there.
> 
> One example, when you go on WoRMS to look up this species
> (novangliae), the 1st of the 3 photos (NMR specimen from Sao Paulo)
> looks a whole lot more like angulatum to me.  The spiral sculpture
> Harry alludes to appears absent, among other issues.
> 
>> On 9/21/21, Harry Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Dear Scott,
>> 
>> I took a little time to track this down, but I couldn't find any record
>> N of Virginia except for the type locality. Here is the original
>> description at <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32266754
>> <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32266754>> and iconotype (on
>> plate II figures 5) <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32267231
>> <https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32267231> >. The shell was the
>> only specimen found and is preserved as the holotype at Harvard (MCZ
>> 182888; confirmed through
>> <https://mczbase.mcz.harvard.edu/SpecimenSearch.cfm?collection_id=1>).
>> Given its excellent state of preservation, I've always been a bit
>> skeptical of Clench & Turner's dismissal of the shell as "adventitiously
>> present" at Cape Ann, MA (/Johnsonia 2/, 1951: 308). They went on to
>> concede "rare at the extremities of its range" (Idem). Codfish may be
>> better wentletrap-hunters than we.
>> 
>> With some photographs, your find should be published in a journal like
>> /American Conchologist;/ let's vindicate Joseph Pitty Couthouy! [Of
>> course; skeptics of skeptics may just shrug and attribute this find to
>> global warming.]
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> PS Note the text renders the specific epithet "NOVAN GLI." [quotes
>> added] while the plate caption spells it as I have in the subject field.
>> PPS I presume you've ruled out /E. championi/, introduced ten pp. after
>> C&T's Rx of the topical species (Idem: 318). HGL
>> 
>> 
>>>  On 9/20/2021 6:13 PM, Scott Robichaud wrote:
>>> Has any one out there ever found an Epitonium novanglia in New England?
>>> I believe one just came up in Rhode Island on a dive about 20 feet deep,
>>> it was crabbed.
>>> The information I have says that it has never been found north of Virginia
>>> and I’m wondering if anyone has any other information for me
>>> Scott Robichaud
>>> 
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