Thanks, Alan. It is good to get a feel for why there is so much contradictory information on the web.
Dale Snyder
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Here's a little more specificity. Torrecoptis polita was first described on page 1547 of the 1972 papers, and was redescribed on page 499 of the 2008 book.
The new species/subspecies in the genera Microceramus, Macroceramus, and Pineria were first described in the 2008 book. The new species/subspecies in the other genera were first described in the 1972 papers, other than one species of Brachypodella that was omitted from the 1972 papers.
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Thanks, Alan,
I couldn't get to your paper using the URL below.
Since others may suffer the same plight, perhaps this direct link will serve better: < http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/zt03362p053.pdf>.
Harry
At 08:35 AM 5/1/2013, you wrote:
It is a little more complicated than that. Bob Hershler, Adrian Gonzalez-Guillen, and I recently published an article in Zootaxa that discusses the complex publication history of the Torre/Bartsch manuscript on Cuban Urocoptidae. About 420 taxa were validated in 1972, and the remaining 130 were validated in the 2008 book.
http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/list/2012/3362.html ; (click on the second article, open access)
For real aficionados of the Cuban Urocoptidae, the original 1943 manuscript was recently scanned and is online at:
http://invertebrates.si.edu/TorreBartsch.html
Alan Kabat
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Dale, I have a copy if you're interested. My email is [log in to unmask] Jim Jensen
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Thank you for clearing that up for me. I'll check libraries in hope that some copies of the book found their way to libraries.
Dale Snyder
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Hi Dale,
Torrecoptis polita was described in "Los Moluscos Terrestres Cubanos
de la Familia Urocoptidae" a manuscript that laid unpublished from
the 1943, but finally went to press in 2008 through the efforts of
Carolina de la Torre Molina. So 2008 is the actual publication
date. It has over 700 pages and all of the species are
illustrated. There are many newly described species included.
For those who do not have this scarce out-of-print publication, do an
on-line search. It is the holy grail for Cuban Urocoptidae. I found
a copy offered for sale in a small Cuban book store in South Florida.
Rich
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At 10:03 PM 4/29/2013, you wrote:
>I have found a confusion of names and dates for this little Cuban land snail.
>Femorale notes Torre & Bartsch 1972
>Bagni Liggia says Jaume & Torre 1975
>biologi.uni-ulm... noted J & T 1972,
>and Wikipedia, Gwannon.com, and others all say T & B 2008
>
>Which authors and date would be the most appropriate?
>
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