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Dear Pat amd Harry,

Although I agree that the record of Voluta musica from Grand Cayman is most probably erroneous, we must think of a misidentification of Voluta polypleura. Specimens of this complex have been found at Pedro Bank, to the southeast of Grand Cayman, and Misteriosa Bank, to the west.

Emilio

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From: Harry G. Lee <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:51:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [CONCH-L] Another Cayman Cone; PS on Julia

Good catch, Pat.

My contribution to this checklist <
http://www.jaxshells.org/cayman.htm> was (1)
integrating earlier inventories (2) imposing
phylogenetic sequence. and (3) adding lots of micromollusks.

The Voluta musica record was lifted uncritically
from Abbott (1958: 88). I have now read, I
believe for the first time, the appropriate
passage, which states "'... Salisbury reports
"one specimen from station 31, 3 ft. dredged at
3½ meters.' .... Salisbury's record is in all
likelihood erroneous, and is based upon a mixture from some other collection."

Your contribution is greatly appreciated and is
one reason we post inventories like this one on
the jaxshells website. We'll expunge Voluta
musica from the Cayman Island list. Science is self-correcting.

Harry

Abbott, R.T., 1958. The marine mollusks of Grand
Cayman Island, British West Indies. Monographs of
the Acad. Nat. Sci. Phila. 11: vi + pp. 1-138 + 5 pls. + index.
Salisbury, A.E., 1953. Mollusca of the University
of Oxford Expedition to the Cayman Islands, 1938.
Proc. Mal. Soc. London 30: 39-54.

PS. I stumbled across the original description of
Julia exquisita at <
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/37036#page/294/mode/1up>.
It appears that Gould was providing a hint that
it was maybe not a clam - comparing it to
Smaragdinella and "some of the Bullidae, Chelidonura, for instance." HGL


At 11:25 AM 4/18/2011, you wrote:
>Dear Harry and other concerned peoples,
>Having a look on the "Cumulative Checklist of
>Cayman Is. Marine Mollusks", I am surprised to
>note the presence of Voluta musica L., 1758! As
>far I am informed, the proved range (ie with
>live-taken specimens) of V. musica extends from
>Colombia (East of Santa Marta) to Venezuela,
>then the Lesser Antilla up to Les Saintes, an
>islet between Dominica and Guadeloupe. It do not
>reach the coast of Guadeloupe despite the
>narrowness of the channel between. Ancient
>reports of findings in Hispaniola or Puerto Rico
>are no longer confirmed since. Did you collect
>any reliable informations on this range extension?
>Amicalement,
>Patrice Bail
>
>Le 17 avr. 2011 à 17:01, Harry G. Lee a écrit :
>>Dear John, Marlo, et al.,
>>
>>Thanks to Alan Kohn, here are the:
>>Lectotype of Conus caribbaeus Clench, 1942 [31
>>mm] <
>>http://biology.burke.washington.edu/conus/recordview/record.php?ID=553ll&tabs=51000111&frms=1&res=gallst&pglimit=C
>> >.
>>Holotype of C. flavescens G.B.Sowerby II [23.5
>>mm] <
>>http://biology.burke.washington.edu/conus/recordview/record.php?ID=1075ll&tabs=51000111&frms=1&res=gallst&pglimit=F
>> >.
>>
>>It appears that Clench (1942: 22-23; pl. 11,
>>fig. 3) chose a specimen that resembled
>>Sowerby's type figure, but not the lectotype.
>>The latter Sowerby specimen looks a lot more
>>like the holotype and paratype of C. caribbaeus in that same plate.
>>
>>Clearly C. flavescens draws from a wide palette
>>of colors and patterns, but even more
>>impressive, as I accept John's synonymy, is its
>>apparent allomorphic growth - becoming
>>proportionately broader, shorter-spired, and
>>more angular as it reaches (conchological)
>>maturity. It fooled me enough to put it in a
>>different genus! I guess I was typologically
>>correct but taxonomically wrong! Correcting for
>>size, I suspect the papilliform protoconchs are close to the same.
>>
>>Clench, W. J., 1942. The genus Conus in the
>>western Atlantic. Johnsonia 1(6): 13-40. Dec. 5.
>>
>>Harry
>>
>>
>>At 09:36 AM 4/17/2011, you wrote:
>>>On 4/17/2011 7:29 AM, Harry G. Lee wrote:
>>>>Could this be Jaspidiconus caribbaeus Clench, 1942?
>>>>
>>>>Whatever the ID, I don't think we have
>>>>recorded it from Grand Cayman at < http://www.jaxshells.org/cayman.htm>.
>>>>
>>>>Harry

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