"I know what I saw with my own eyes, and it was a UFO, and nothing you can say
will make me believe otherwise!"
..AN NOTHING YOU CAN SAY WILL MAKE ME BELIEVE OTHERWISE...
This is why scientists (those majority who believe in evolution and accept it
as fact) and creationists will never agree.  Proof in the scientific sense is
not required if you really have Faith.
I shake my head in disbelief at creationsists dogma, in fact getting into such
an argument could make a person angry. Presenting scientific proofs will not
work.  We just have to accept that.
The real tragedy is, as has been stated, is the tyranny of fundamentalist views
prevailing in the Kansas schoolboard.  Those kids should get to decide what
side of the irreconcilable argument they want to be on.

Gary Rosenberg wrote:

> >Its true there can be no direct evidence of evolution itself actually
> taking >place, everyone knows this. But this is no argument against
> evolution >occurring.
>
> Evolution can be easily observed, and it is therefore a fact not a theory.
> Evolution is merely change in the frequency of genetically based
> characteristics of a population over time. Such microevolutionary changes
> have been observed repeatedly in natural populations and in the laboratory.
> Even creationists usually do not deny that microevolution occurs. They deny
> that microevolution over long periods of time can account for large scale
> changes (macroevolution).
>
> Speciation has been also been directly observed: there is a form of
> instantaneous speciation among plants in which the number of chromosomes
> doubles in hybrids between species, resulting in offspring that cannot
> interbreed with either parent species, but can interbreed among themselves.
>
> This debate is also raging on the taxacom discussion group, and in response
> to one of my postings there, Susan Farmer said:
>
> "In my experience, many Creationists don't have a problem with speciation.
> They will acknowledge that a different form of a lily can arise because
> of environmental/hydrid/polyploid/whatever conditions.  They contend
> that it was a lily before; and it's still a lily -- albeit a different
> one.  Most Creationists have a problem with the kind of speciation
> events that would cause the rise of a pteridophyte [fern] from an alga."
>
> Gary
>
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