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John Jacobs <[log in to unmask]>
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Conchologists of America List <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:17:02 -0500
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Gijs,
Could you give us the citation for aurora?
Thanks.

John & Cheryl Jacobs
Seffner, Florida
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gijs C. Kronenberg" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?


> Dear all,
>
> As the author of Euprotomus aurora I have nothing to add to the comments
> already made by Henk K. Mienis.
> With all due respect, the dealer who sold specimens labled as E. aurora to
> John Schrecke obviously did not know what he was talking about.
> For stromb collectors: if you see any specimen which has locality data
from
> places in the Indian Ocean or Red Sea, that is, if these data are correct,
> and which looks like and is labled Euprotomus aurisdianae, you bet you
have
> a genuine E. aurora which is by the way a very common species.
> If you Timothy or John have any further questions, you can contact me
> directly.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gijs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mienis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:25 AM
> Subject: Fw: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mienis" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "Conchologists of America List" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
> >
> >
> > Dear Timothy,
> >
> > E. aurora Kronenberg, 2002 is also living in the Red Sea. If it is a
> hybrid
> > between E. auridianae and E. bulla then these species should occur in
the
> > Red Sea too. However, all previous records of either aurisdianae or
bulla
> > from that area (Yaron; Mienis; Heiman; etc.)turned out to have been
based
> on
> > misidentifications of aurora!
> > I refer to the original publication for further details:
> > Kronenberg, G.C., 2002. Revision of Euprotomus Gill, 1970. 3.
Description
> of
> > Euprotomus aurora spec. nov. from the Indian Ocean (Gastropoda,
> Strombidae).
> > Vita Malacologica, 1: 55-60.
> > Best regards,
> > Henk K. Mienis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Timothy Blackwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Status of Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora?
> > Hi everyone,
> > Just recently I received a price list on which were listed specimens of
> > Strombus (Euprotomus) aurora.  Unfortunately, there were no pictures.
> While
> > browsing through a
> > number of web sites later I came across the following address that had
> > several photos of this species:
> >
>
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/loic.limpalaer/Taurus/Strombidae/page_euprotomus.htm
> > Several examples of S. aurora were shown, alongside specimens of S.
> > aurisdianae and S. bulla.  The appearance of the examples of S. aurora
> > brought to mind what S. aurisdianae would look like if it had the color
> > typical of S. bulla.  Another site
> > (http://www.conchology.be) had specimens resembling S. aurora that were
> > labeled as S. aurisdianae X bulla.  The morphology and distributions
were
> > the same.  Now for my question.  Is S. aurora a distinct and valid
> species,
> > or should it be considered a hybrid between aurisdianae and bulla?  Any
> > assistance you can provide will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in
> advance.
> > Sincerely,
> > Tim Blackwood

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