David,
you gave way more than 2 cents worth if you only intended to 'return to
shelling'.  Bob Fisher, Gloucester, Virginia


At 12:39 PM 9/12/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Fellow shellers,
>
>The horrible attacks of yesterday are a watershed event in history. The
>suffering and pain that other parts of the world experience regularly has
>suddenly burst the illusion of apartness that Americans usually feel.
>
>I feel compelled to say that acts of revenge and a standard of no
>distinction between terrorists and those who harbor them will surely result
>in continuation of the cycle of violence.
>
>A standard of "no distinction" is not an auspicious one for the US.
>
>Emmanuel "Toto" Constant, leader of the FRAPH death squad, now resides in
>Brooklyn. Hundreds of documents pertaining to the death squad's activities
>were seized by the US military. The government of Haiti has repeatedly asked
>for Constant's extradition and for the return of the documents; the US has
>refused. Does this signal a right of Haiti to launch an attack on the US?
>Emphatically, no.
>
>Henry Kissinger, just a couple of weeks ago, received a summons by French
>police in Paris regarding an investigation into the disappearances of French
>citizens in Chile in the 1970s. He ignored it and took a plane out of
>France. He now faces a hearing in Washington, DC, for the kidnapping
>(leading to the murder) of the Chilean Army chief of staff in 1970. A
>suspect in state terrorism being harbored on US soil?
>
>There are lots of calls for blood and this is a natural response. But I
>believe yesterday's events entail a re-examination of cherished assumptions
>about conduct and policy. Meting out punishment but not being accountable
>for one's own conduct is the type of thinking that led us to this point,
>unfortunately. The world needs reason and justice, not more fuel on the
>fire.
>
>******
>
>Can we get back to shelling?
>Are people willing to name some of the good shelling beaches in their
>experiences? Also, have others been finding that there's a general decline
>in the quality of shelling over the past 20 years?
>
>David Kirsh
>Durham, NC
>
Robert Fisher
Commercial Fisheries Specialist
Virginia Institute of Marine Science
College of William and Mary
(804) 684-7168

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world:  the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man."      -George Bernard Shaw