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Dear Peter,
I have been at Helmut's home in Innsbruck in the last year after his big
leg-operation.
As we were always in the middle of our exchange ( he never sent me material,
I must went to Innsbruck...).In this time he was very ill, he was in bed and
his computer was OFF. (In the past he were sitting always in front of his
computer...)
His Mum almost 100 years and SHE helped to Helmut.
In the near future I can give you more information about Helmut and  I hope
he is better now.
Regards,  Zoltan from Budapest


>From: Peter Egerton <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Conchologists of America List <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: helmut
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:19:16 -0700
>
>Jan,
>
>You mentioned Helmut Nisters. Have you, or anyone, heard from him lately?
>My last message from him was last September, just after he got out of the
>hospital from having his leg amputated. Since then he has not replied to
>any of my messages. We were in the middle of our second shell exchange (him
>owing me a large parcel) and it is VERY STRANGE for him not to keep in
>touch with me, since we corresponded constantly before that, even just to
>say he will be late with the shells.
>
>I've asked the list before, but that was back in January, and still have
>not heard about him.
>
>Regards,
>Peter Egerton
>
>
>At 08:43 AM 18/06/2004, you wrote:
>
>>It seems to me that once again (not the first time on this and other shel=
>>l-fora!), a basic principle of law and justice is broken here. If someone=
>>is to be accused of a violation of law or other 'good conduct', there ar=
>>e proper channels to follow: filing complaint with the postal office, goi=
>>ng to the police, filing a complaint in court, etc.
>>One thing that is -in my opinion- out of the question and as bad as the s=
>>upposed crookery act, is accusing people in front of their own community =
>>and peers. I hope the List manager for once and for all makes it very cle=
>>ar that things like these are not done!
>>For your information: yes I am from Belgium too, but I have never heard o=
>>f this Stany, so I'm not 'defending' him. A few years ago, I have had a p=
>>roblem with paying a parcel ONCE in my life (with a very famous Belgian s=
>>hell trader, whom you all know) but this person had the good and wise con=
>>duct of sending me a reminder letter privately, asking what the problem w=
>>as, after which I paid the due sum. If every shell trader would start war=
>>ning the shell-collectors community of people who are late in paying, or =
>>who have other problems related to paying, I think we would see messages =
>>like the one below every day.
>>Come to think of it: who remembers poor Helmut Nisters, the annoying Aust=
>>rian? He has been exposed a few years back on Mollusk Net (or something l=
>>ike that) for not paying a parcel as well. I happen to know that this man=
>>is not a crook, not a fraud, but on the contrary a pitiful bachelor, too=
>>naive for this world, and sadly enough he recently has lost a leg. Still=
>>, he has been on the web for years for everybody to read being a vile cro=
>>ok!
>>So, please refrain yourself, people! Try to solve problems like this with=
>>the contact in question or through the proper channels, instead of going=
>>public with it. Conch-L is not a tabloid magazine!!!
>>a very nice weekend to everybody,
>>Jan Haspeslagh
>>bibliothecaris/librarian VLIZ
>>
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>
>--
>Peter Egerton, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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