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Dear Allen,

Good point.

If memory serves, Conch-L'er Tom Watters knows about the regional fauna.

Harry


At 01:39 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
>First of all, do any of the species in NE Ohio, or which have ever
>been found in NE Ohio (pre-pesticide), go crawling up vegetation or
>buildings like the snails around the Mediterranean do?  Just because
>you do not see the snails does not mean they have all been
>killed.  Most grassland species are tiny.  Most forest species are
>hidden most of the time.  Yes, some pesticides kill snails, but do
>not blame pesticides for making snails that were not there in the
>first place, disappear.
>
>Allen Aigen
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>---------- Original Message ----------
>From: "Martin H. Eastburn" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] Where have all the US snails gone...?
>Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:27:54 -0500
>
>My guess up there - air pollution in general.  Acid rain or dust.
>Dust from industry that was abrasive or PH harmful.  Some ash feels
>soft and fluffy to the touch, but on the microscopic level, that we
>reach over with a touch, it can be razor like.
>
>In the south that has the native and invading fire ant, they eat what
>is handy and have (thank them for this) rid us around East Texas of the
>dear tick.  I'm concerned for the birds. The bug population is thinning.
>I live on 7 acres of grass and cross timber.  We try to control them
>in a passive or semi-passive way.  Allow them away from us, knowing
>only a massive attack would rid a hundred or so hives.  Now we have
>a hybrid ant that changed the way they live and react.  No more cemented
>clay hills that harm tractors but many hills to walk into or atop.
>
>If you are in the city, yard and city land has been doused with weed killer,
>grass grower, and various road chemical.  Remember some bug companies
>come and spray down the whole lawn to rid the owner of June bugs, termites
>and so forth.
>
>Not saying much along the line of DDT and Chlordane now long banned.
>Little is known, I suppose, as to the native gastropod population and how
>it is controlled or endangered by what we use.
>
>Between the old Eastern block states and Ohio, it is hard to say.  The area
>you were in might be protected from pollution by a cleaner region to the
>west.  Assuming the wind pattern is West to East.  Environmental Geology
>is a
>very complex subject.  There are layers of reason and doubt.
>
>Martin
>
>
>Paul Callomon wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > The following was sent to me, and with the sender's permission I am
> > passing it into the conchlerscape for your erudite comments. Please
> > respond to the original sender, not just to the list, as she's not
> > (yet) a subscriber.
> >
> > PC
> >
> >
> ****************************************************************************************
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am hoping that you can answer a question for me.  Upon traveling to
> > Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia, I found a wide variety of beautiful
> > land snails in the grass and on trees every morning (of course I left
> > them alone in their natural environment, just took some great snapshots!).
> >
> > I got to wondering why it is that I have never seen a land snail in
> > Northeast Ohio where I live (or anywhere in the US that I've been
> > besides a lone one in Florida).  My husband, who is from Bosnia, says
> > that the land snails here have been exterminated by the chemical
> > treatments Americans use on their lawns.  Of course, he does tell a
> > good old wives tale, so I was wondering if this is one of them or if
> > there is any truth to that?
> >
> > I run an online news blog at http://www.connietalk.com
> > <http://www.connietalk.com/>, and I would like to post an article on
> > this topic, but haven't yet found a resource to answer that question.
> > I have seen quite a bit of decent-sized freshwater snails in our pond,
> > but never a land snail...and I've spent a lot of time outdoors!
> >
> > Thanks in advance and I do hope you can respond!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Connie T.
> >
> > Editor
> > http://www.connietalk.com <http://www.connietalk.com/>
> > [log in to unmask]
> > The Hottest News Blog
>
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>Martin H. Eastburn
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