I can tell you, yes, the paper mill is closed permanently.  It was owned by
the Dupont Foundation.  The company planted the many pine trees in the area
as a steady supply for the paper mill.  As soon as they would harvest, they
would replant.

The land holding the pine trees became very valuable and Dupont went out of
the paper business and are now land developers, using their land in that
area.  Though I am not acquainted with anyone in Port St. Joe, I understand
it was quite a blow to the economy there.

I will have to look through our many olives we collected from St. Joe Bay to
see if we have any green ones.  When we moved from the beach, however, we
kept only a few specimens of what we collected from the area.  (We made many
people happy at a colossal Labor Day weekend moving sale).

Sylvia S. Edwards
Huntsville, Alabama
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ardeth Hardin <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [CONCH-L] green olives


> Lucy, The Bay at Port St Joe is where I found my green olive, and yes the
> papermill was in operation at that time.
> We were there this summer and we noticed the paper mill was not operating.
> Anyone know if it closed permanently?
> And my green olive lost its color too.  One our our conch-lers suggested I
> soak
> mine in mineral oil and see if any of the color comes back.  Have you
tried
> that?  Ardeth
> [log in to unmask]
> Carrollton, Tx
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lucy Clampit <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:08 PM
> Subject: [CONCH-L] green olives
>
>
> > Greetings,
> > Sorry to go back to an old subject, but have had a hard time keeping up
> with Conch-L lately.  In July of 1976 we collected some green sayana in
the
> Bay at Port St. Joe, Florida. They were alive.  My husband saw them first
> and thought he had found a new species. (He just finds them.  I have to do
> the rest.)  I'm an olive person and have collected, traded or bought
sayana
> from all along the Gulf of Mexico coast and the east coast of Florida but
> have never seen green ones from any other location.  I just now looked at
> them again.  The green is gone.  The green area was on the back just below
> the suture.  At the time I felt that it was algae on the shell and only
> brought 3 home.   One of them is rough in the green area and looks as
> thought something ate away part of the glossy outer layer.  It is now
white
> in that area.   The other two are grayish in the area and are smooth and
> glossy as though they applied a layer of shell over the green stuff.  I
> believe that there was a paper mill in the area at the time.  Could it
have
> discharged something into the water that caused this?  Have any of the
> collectors who live in that area seen any green olives?  We have been back
a
> few times since and haven't found green ones again.
> >
> > I had some sayana in an aquarium for a couple of years and fed them
> shrimp.  They probably would have lived a lot longer if we hadn't moved.
We
> had to leave the aquarium on the patio overnight, and it turned a little
too
> cold for them.  The shell that they added while in the aquarium is white
and
> chalky.
> >
> > Lucy Clampit
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Houston, Texas - location of the 2000 COA Convention.  Ya'll come!
> >
>