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Emilio Lopez <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 1 May 1998 20:00:59 -0400
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Hola:
 
You can see page 22 of Caribbean Seashells, Warmke, Abbott, Dover Publications.
It has some of what you wants.
Saludos
Emilio
 
Jenny Scarboro escribis:
 
> Perhaps I did not make myself clear in my initial post.
>
> I am not suggesting an online database of multinational common names, which
> would be of some interest but not great relevance.  Impractical for the
> time-limited malacologist perhaps, but not for the zealous amateur.
>
> However, I think we might find more useful a shelling phrasebook, in
> commonly-spoken languages of regions where collectors might be inclined to
> travel.
>
> In the phrasebook, we might find how to say:
>
> "Where do the shrimp/lobster/scallop boats dock?"
> "What time is low tide?"
> "Do you know where to find shells?"
> "Does anyone sell shells in this town?"
> "Is there a dive shop in town?"
>
> And so forth, in each of several languages, such as Tagalog, Spanish,
> Portuguese, French, Arabic, etc.
>
> I hardly imagine this to be impractical, certainly not absolutely so.
> Hence the clarification, as surely Jose misunderstood my intent.  General
> useful shelling phrases; not species-specific names, Latin or common.
>
> The French-English shell glossary, by C. Geerts of Belgium, was originally
> published as a supplement to Tom Rice's "Of Sea and Shore" magazine.  It is
> 15pp unbound and Tom likely still has it in print, at less than $5.00.  It
> contains US, AU, and UK common names in French equivalents, as well as
> descriptive adjectives and shell feature terms, and an assortment of
> helpful general shell-related terms.
>
> I don't know of any Spanish shell glossary, but it would be handy.
>
> Jenny
>
> ----------
> > From: Jose H. Leal <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Spanish shell terms
> > Date: Friday, 01 May, 1998 9:04 AM
> >
> > At 04:43 PM 4/26/98 -0500, Jenny wrote:
> >
> > >Jose, might the AFS database contain common names or terms en espanol?
> >
> > No, the AFS includes only American English names of North American
> shells.
> >
> > >If not, is there a glossary out there similar to the French-English
> shell
> > >term translator, in Spanish?  I think I will need it for talking to the
> > >locals about shells during my time in Honduras.
> >
> > I am not aware of such translator. Although Spanish is one my favorite
> > languages, I was born in Brazil, where only Portuguese is spoken
> > (Portuguese is about as different from Spanish as Dutch is from German).
> > However, drawing from my experience with Spanish-speaking collectors,
> > scientists, fishermen, etc., from many Latin American countries and
> Spain,
> > such translator would be largely impractical because of the broad
> regional
> > differences in common names. This has been stressed ad nauseam in this
> > thread about common/scientific names. There are many common-name
> > differences between countries and, in some countries with long coastlines
> > (for example Mexico, Chile, Argentina) the same species of seashell may
> > have several common names. That's why scientific names of species have
> been
> > used in the same basic format for 240 years! Although some of us may not
> > like them, Latin names are really necessary when we need to communicate
> > across international borders.
> >
> > >Wouldn't a comparative glossary of French/Spanish/Arabic/English shell
> > >terms be a nice addition to someone's web page?  This would be a great
> help
> > >to far-ranging shell seekers.
> >
> > Absolutely impractical. Read above.
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> > Jose H. Leal, Ph.D.
> > Director, The Bailey-Matthews Shell Museum
> > Editor-in-chief, THE NAUTILUS
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