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Harry,
        Would you like a few pictures of this "beast"?
Dan


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>Dear Dan, Hiromi, and Kuma,
>
>I collect this kind of thing, and I can say that
>sinistral Cornu aspersum (Müller, 1774) are
>infrequent but far from unique. Barry Roth found
>one in his San Francisco garden, but I never
>found among the hundreds I culled from my garden
>there (1970-72). The vast majority of people who
>can make the L/R-handed diagnosis and who live in
>immediate proximity of this pest (exception
>below) share my 0 for 300 experience.  My best
>guess for solitary instances is on the order of 1:1,000 to 1:10,000.
>
>There is mention of a colony of sinistrals of
>this species in Jeffreys (1862: 182). The British
>malacologist saw this first-hand the garden of
>Alcide d'Orbigny in Rochelle, France. I have a
>scan of this passage I could send.
>
>After an exhaustive search of your friend's
>garden for more sinistrals, how about a little
>captive breeding experiment? Maybe we can
>recreate the Great d'Orbigny's sinistral cornucopia.
>
>Harry
>
>Jeffreys, J. G., 1862. British Conchology 2. John
>Van Voorst, London. frontispiece + cxiv + 1-341 + pls. 1-7.
>
>
>At 02:12 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:
>>Dear ALL,
>>         As today is kinda slow, I thought that I might get some information
>>on the sinistrality of helix aspersa.  The other day I had a friend drop by
>>with a beautiful, live adult specimen that he took from his garden.  He
>>said that he generally tosses hundreds of Helix aspersa (Cornu aspersa)
>>from the garden but this one caught his eye.  I photographed his specimen,
>>but he asked if this was an unusual or rare occurence.  So, here I am
>>again, asking for some "opinions" on the rarity of this specimen.
>>Dan
>>
>>Dan, Hiromi & Kuma Yoshimoto
>>Eureka, California
>>U.S.A.
>
>Harry G. Lee, M. D.
>4132 Ortega Forest Dr.
>Jacksonville, FL 32210 USA
>voice (904) 389 4049
>email: [log in to unmask]
>look at www.jaxshells.org
>
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>Dear Dan, Hiromi, and Kuma,<br><br>
>I collect this kind of thing, and I can say that sinistral <u>Cornu</u>
><u>aspersum</u> (Müller, 1774) are infrequent but far from unique. Barry
>Roth found one in his San Francisco garden, but I never found among the
>hundreds I culled from my garden there (1970-72). The vast majority of
>people who can make the L/R-handed diagnosis and who live in immediate
>proximity of this pest (exception below) share my 0 for 300
>experience.&nbsp; My best guess for <u>solitary</u> instances is on the
>order of 1:1,000 to 1:10,000.<br><br>
>There is mention of a colony of sinistrals of this species in Jeffreys
>(1862: 182). The British malacologist saw this first-hand the garden of
>Alcide d'Orbigny in Rochelle, France. I have a scan of this passage I
>could send.<br><br>
>After an exhaustive search of your friend's garden for more sinistrals,
>how about a little captive breeding experiment? Maybe we can recreate the
>Great d'Orbigny's sinistral cornucopia.<br><br>
>Harry<br><br>
>Jeffreys, J. G., 1862. <i>British Conchology 2</i>. John Van Voorst,
>London. frontispiece + cxiv + 1-341 + pls. 1-7.<br><br>
><br>
>At 02:12 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:<br>
><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear ALL,<br>
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As today is kinda slow, I
>thought that I might get some information<br>
>on the sinistrality of helix aspersa.&nbsp; The other day I had a friend
>drop by<br>
>with a beautiful, live adult specimen that he took from his garden.&nbsp;
>He<br>
>said that he generally tosses hundreds of Helix aspersa (Cornu
>aspersa)<br>
>from the garden but this one caught his eye.&nbsp; I photographed his
>specimen,<br>
>but he asked if this was an unusual or rare occurence.&nbsp; So, here I
>am<br>
>again, asking for some &quot;opinions&quot; on the rarity of this
>specimen.<br>
>Dan<br><br>
>Dan, Hiromi &amp; Kuma Yoshimoto<br>
>Eureka, California<br>
>U.S.A.</blockquote></body>
><br>
>
><body>
>Harry G. Lee, M. D.<br>
>4132 Ortega Forest Dr.<br>
>Jacksonville, FL 32210 USA<br>
>voice (904) 389 4049<br>
>email: [log in to unmask]<br>
>look at
><a href="http://www.jaxshells.org/" eudora="autourl"><font size=2>
>www.jaxshells.org<br>
></a></font></body>
></html>

Dan, Hiromi & Kuma Yoshimoto
Eureka, California
U.S.A.

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