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Dear Trish Little ( via Pam Enrici/’MAPS-L’),
Even though an intruder from 'The Old Country', maybe I can throw in something?
M[ademois]elle Hon[eri]ne [?] Aubert is not one of the seven x Aubert persons listed in the 4-volume 'Tooley's dictionary of mapmakers, rev. ed.' (1999-2004). I mention this work first because of the geo-cartographical context of Freycinet and the 'Voyage de Découvertes aux Terres Australes'’. Even though we all know (don’t we?!) that engravers frequently had their 'specialities' (i.e. script/toponyms, outline, relief depiction, decoration - for those involved in the engraving of copper-plates in the fields of geography and cartography).As you are here dealing with ‘The French Connection’, what information does BnF’s BN-OPALINE produce?
Have you been directed to Mesdames Alice Hudson and Mary Ritzlin and their writings (including a still unpublished [?] listing) on women mapmakers? See, e.g.:-
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/awhhtml/awgmd7/notes.html#i15
You don’t specifically mention (at least, to non-music librarians) that you have tried the obvious: The new Grove dictionary of music and musicians (of the 1980s onwards: again, a special subjec t work, albeit all-enco mp assing). So I would next go to the, since 1983 ongoing, Saurs Allegmeine K ü nstlerlexikon (Leipzig; from 1993: M ü nchen [etc.]). This is a thorough revision and expansion of the Allgemeines Lexikon der bildenden K ü nstler von der Antike bis zum Gegenwart by Ulrich Thieme & Felix Becker (1907-50; reprint 1964).
As an encouragement to ‘look wide[r]’ I quote from my review essay of Rodney W. Shirley’s Printed maps of the British Isles 1650-1750 (London : British Library; Tring, Herts : Map Collector Publications, 1988), printed (twice – second time with corrections!) in SUC [=Society of University Cartographers] Bulletin , 1990, 23 (1):-
“The reviewer [FH] found, during research . . . for a review of Island , Grönland und das nördliche Eismeer . . . by Oswald Dreyer-Eimbke ( Hamburg , 1987), that Thomas Cross was the engraver of maps for the English translation of J. Debes’ book . . . ( London , 1676). This same Thomas Cross also engraved around 50 portraits (three of which include depiction of globes) from c.1644 to 1685. His son, who from 1683 to c.1710 often signed himself “Tho. Cross junior sculpt.” was mainly an engraver of music until his death in 1733 . . . Although some maps have had their specialist engraver for different co mp onents . . . not all engravers kept exclusively to one co mp onent of the whole work nor did they always specialize in only one subject area.”
Francis Herbert (former Curator of Maps , Royal Geographical Society with IBG; a maps’n’music man)
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Maybe someone can help.
Pam Enrici
Geography & Map Librarian (who also is responsible for music, engineering, and most of science)
Univ. of MN., Duluth
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From: David Day < [log in to unmask] >
Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Subject: [MLA-L] Fwd: M.elle Hon.ne Aubert sculp.
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Apologies for cross posting:
Sent on behalf of Trish Little. She is seeking information on an engraver. As the list-serv cannot accept images, I had to delete the attached images of her original message.
Begin forwarded message:
I am a cataloguer with the National Gallery of Victoria in Melbourne, Australia and I am researching an engraver. Musical scores are not my field and I’m having little luck with online research so I thought I’d try contacting a specialist.
The two items I’m looking at are sheet music from within a larger atlas (details below) and both items bear the name of an engraver that reads: M.elle Hon.ne Aubert sculp.
Have you ever encountered this engraver in your work? I would be most grateful for any research advice you can offer.
Kind regards, Trish Little
Charles-Alexandre LESUEUR (after)
Pierre-François BERNIER (after)
Music of the Natives of New South Wales
1824
engraving
17.5 x 14 cm (image), 31.4 x 24.3 cm (plate), 34.7 x 27.1 cm (sheet)
printed in ink above image, u.r.: 32
printed in ink below image, l.l.-l.r.: Lesneur et Bernier notaverunt. M.elle (elle in superscript above . ) Hon.ne (ne in superscript above . ) Aubert sculp.
printed in ink below image, l.c.: NOUVELLE-HOLLANDE . N.elle (elle in superscript above . ) Galles du Sud . / MUSIQUE DES NATURELS . / J.Milbert direx.
plate 32 in the Voyage de Découvertes aux Terres Australes
(Voyage of Discovery to the Southern Lands) atlas.
Arthus Bertrand, Paris, 1824, 2nd edition
Louis-Claude de Desaulses FREYCINET (after)
Charles-Alexandre LESUEUR (after)
Pierre-François BERNIER (after)
Malay and Chinese music
1824
engraving
31.7 x 24.3 cm (plate), 37 x 27.5 cm (sheet)
printed in ink above image, u.r.: 45
printed below the image, l.l.-l.r.: L. Freycinet, Lesueur et Bernier notaverunt . M.elle (elle in superscript above . ) Hon.ne (ne in superscript above . ) Aubert sculp.
printed in ink below image, l.c.: TIMOR . / MUSIQUE MALAISE ET CHINOISE . / J.Milbert direx.
plate 45 in the Voyage de Découvertes aux Terres Australes
(Voyage of Discovery to the Southern Lands) atlas.
Arthus Bertrand, Paris, 1824, 2nd edition
Trish Little
Cataloguer
National Gallery of Victoria
180 St Kilda Road
Melbourne VIC 3004 Australia
Telephone: +61 3 8620 2261; Fax: +61 3 8620 2555
ngv.vic.gov.au < http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au >
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