On 27-Apr-00, Charles Sturm <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I have collected from a colony of C. nemoralis in the City of Mount Vernon, Westchester County, New York State for about 4 years now. Banded and unbanded forms, don't recall any being of a strongly orange tint. Charlie ****************************************************************************** Charlie Sturm, Jr Research Associate - Section of Invertebrate Zoology Carnegie Museum of Natural History, Pittsburgh, PA Assistant Professor - Family Medicine [log in to unmask] Addenda for U. of B. C. site- Yes, orange and orange banded and yellow, but don't remember if there were yellow banded. L.W.B.