On 30-May-00, David Kirsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Harry Lee sent me a quotation saying that juvenile Longchaeus candidus (previously Pyramidella) can be found with a perforation or umbilicus, unlike the adult. Does anyone know whether a juvenile Umbonium vestiarum can have an umbilicus where the adult callus is located? David Kirsh Durham, NC ---------------------- David - I have a juvenile Umbonium; as soon as I find it, I will check it for an umbilicus. Linda Bush