Joe this can be pretty hard to determine as some of the filers are real experts. Sometimes if you look closely or with a hand lens you can see the file marks on the lip. Another sign is to look closely at the body whorl immedialy adjacent to where the lip joins to see if there is a residual bit of lip as this seems much more difficult to file off. If you know a little about general shape within a genus or family you may also see that the shape is not quite right. Cones are a good example as the siphonal notch near the shoulder is often filed right away Regards Geoff >From: Joe Scharle <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Conchologists of America List <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:59:28 -0500 > >I understand that the lips of shells are sometimes filed. What should I >look for to determine if this has been done to a shell? >Thanks, >Joe _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.