Thanks Harry. I can now see a difference between higendorfi & vernedei Geoff >From: "Harry G. Lee" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Conchologists of America List <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Amalda hilgendorfi (von Martens, 1897) >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:24:53 -0500 > >Dear Geoff, > >This response was sent to the "Atlantic" forum, but it seems the initial >inquiry has sort-of spilled over into the Conch-L stream, thus: > >"I happen to have a specimen of Amalda vernedei (G. B. Sowerby, 1859); see ><http://www.mindspring.com/~strombus/amalda.htm>. It is not related to A. >hilgendorfi (von Martens, 1897) or A. heerlari van Pel, 1989. The latter >author was mistaken in the assignment of his new taxon to conspecificity >with A. v.; don't you think?" > >Harry > > >At 08:03 PM 1/22/01 +1100, you wrote: > >I am no Olive expert but I have one higendorfi from off Japan ans a >couple > >of vernedei herlaari from NW Australia and I cannot see the difference > >Geoff > > > > > >>From: Atlantic <[log in to unmask]> > >>Reply-To: Conchologists of America List <[log in to unmask]> > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: Amalda hilgendorfi (von Martens, 1897) > >>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:42:52 -0000 > >> > >>TO MAY IT CONCERN > >> > >>in ATLANTIC OLIVIDAE Forum > >> > >>" [ I would introduce some comments about Amalda hilgendorfi (von >Martens > >>,1897). > >>It seems to be a widespread species with a large distribution in Western > >>Pacific (Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, Papua-New Guinea, NorthWestern > >>Australia) between 150-300 m depth and New Caledonia (with the >subspecies > >>Amalda hilgendorfi > >>richeri Kilburn & Bouchet ,1988 -between 450-600 m) and even in western > >>Indian Ocean ( North of Madagascar in 300-500 m ). > >> > >>Another close species Amalda vernedei ( Sowerby ,1859) from China seems >to > >>be the same species, just more inflated with a wider aperture and with a > >>subspecies : Amalda vernedei herlaari Van Pel,1989 from Arafura Sea ( > >>Australian North West Shelf ) trawled from 400 m or more. > >> > >>I am waiting for your comments about both these species which seem to >form > >>a single widespread species with a great variability in form,size(50 to >100 > >>mm )and bathymetry. > >> > >>< JOIN DISCUSSION HERE > > >> > >>References: > >>-The genus Amalda in New Caledonia by R.Kilburn & P.Bouchet > >> Bull. Mus.natn.Hit.Nat.Paris 4° Serie 10,1988 Section A n°2:277-300 > >>-A new subspecies of the Genus Amalda from the Arafura Sea P.L.Van Pel > >> La Conchiglia N° 233 January-April 1989 p 13-15 > >>-Australian Marine Shells T 2 B. Wilson 1994 ]" > >> > >> Patrick > >>LEPETIT >********************************************************** >Harry G. Lee >Suite 500 >1801 Barrs St. >Jacksonville, FL 32204 >USA 904-384-6419 ><[log in to unmask]> >Visit the Jacksonville Shell Club Home Page at: >http://home.sprynet.com/~wfrank/jacksonv.htm > >oo .--. oo .--. oo .--. > \\(____)_ \\(____)_ \\(____)_ > `~~~~~~~` `~~~~~~~` `~~~~~~~` _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.