Now I know there's a ghost in the machine. Its bad enough my original un- edited and incomplete reply got unintentionally sent to the list before I was done writing once by me, but now it has reappeared a second time without comment under the heading of Fred and Ellen. Makes no sense to me?! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=conch-l&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------