Thanks Guido, And if anyone is interesting in knowing that shell in question is with me now for any unbelievers to view. I travel to Pasil, Mumbaling, & other HOT dirty Philippine bodegas (warehouses) to find unusual shells like this & maybe im lucky to get a few a week after viewing tens of thousands. CHRIS:) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=conch-l&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------