Yes, This is a rare Hawaii endemic full species. A revision by Poppe revised the status. Most crabbed deep-water specimens are very dead or fossilized. I suspect this species live deep in sand & doesn't leave a trail. All the live specimens i've found are 45-60ft. Sometimes octopus keep live shells around the den for those late night munchies. The un-published WRS that i have is 119.8mm. CHRIS:) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=conch-l&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------