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Hi, Pat -
By a process of elimination, here's what I've arrived at:
a. It's probably not a "distribution or collection" facility map of any
sort. The locations are too scattered for that if they're related to
things like water treatment (which wasn't so big back then), electricity
generation (which wasn't very distributed back then), etc. and not
particularly related to where large populations are located.
b. It's probably not something like a mine or gravel pit map because
the distribution of the dots aren't like we'd expect for those kinds of
things
c. It's probably something related to farming in some way, I'm thinking
something like a product distributed by some vendor/manufacturer because
of the use of the term "territorial" in the cartouche. At first, I
thought maybe something like use of irrigation, but that wasn't so big
back in the 1930s either.
d. The interesting thing is that there are lots and lots of circles,
relatively few squares, and only one "homeplate" symbol on this corner
of the map.
So, my conclusion is that some variation on item c is the possibility.
Given that you folks are in Chicago, could it have been from a company
based in Chicago with a staffer who thought, "Well, gee whiz, why don't
we just give one of these to The Library because they might want to keep
stuff like this?" The question is what are the three different things.
Is it possible they are three different products of that company? It
doesn't seem like the "homeplate" stuff is very "popular", if that's the
appropriate term.
And, the numbers don't seem to be related to location or the type of
symbol. Looking along the top, 37, 75, 80, 108, 111, 114 would
constitute a mixed bag in terms of the symbols, so maybe the numbers
represent some kind of alphabetical order or other order.
That's what I've arrived at so far.
So, PLEASE let us know when you find out what it is, okay? Inquiring
minds want to know. ;~)
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Gentle Readers,
Attached here is an image of a peculiar Gousha road map we've run across
at the Newberry Library, titled Official Territorial Road Map : Central
United States (Chicago : H.M. Gousha Co., [1939?]), plate no. M-8 at
bottom right.
The base map is printed in blue but overprinted in red with hundreds of
unidentified points in rural areas well off the road network. These
points are connected with radiating lines to numbers printed in the
margins within circle and square borders, but without a key to these
numbered sites, which are apparently NOT state parks.
Any ideas about what is being located would be much appreciated.
Thanks for your time, Pat Morris
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Saudi halts recognition of UAE ID cards over map issue
Khaleej Times - 22 August, 2009
Saudi Arabia said on Friday it has stopped recognising UAE identity cards because it dislikes a map on the cards and is requiring Emiratis to travel with a passport instead.
Under a mutual agreement between members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), UAE and Saudi citizens were allowed to gain entrance to the other country by showing their national identity cards.
But Saudi Arabia withdrew from the agreement in protest at an image of the UAE map on Emiratis’ ID cards that does not correspond to the
border agreed by the two in 1974, General Salem Al Bolayhed, head of the immigration authority, was quoted as saying by the official SPA news agency.
“The kingdom has taken many measures to contain the issue by submitting an official memorandum via diplomatic channels... calling on brothers in the UAE to correct the map to match the current reality of common borders between the two countries,” Bolayhed said.
“And since there was no response from the UAE to the efforts made in that respect, it has been decided that UAE citizens should be banned from entering the kingdom with their official identity cards.” “Citizens of the two countries wishing to move between the official crossings have to use their passports instead of their national identity cards,” he added.
Dubai.
A similar article in Gulf News today ( http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Travel_and_Tourism/10342976.html ), however they don't state the reason as clearly as in Khaleej Times.
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From: Michael Ross <[log in to unmask]>
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This episode is a reflection of the past difficulties in agreeing this
border, and others in the area.
The man who has actually mapped the border is a Lebanese born, NZ
educated, and now German resident cartographer (married to a kiwi).
I have forwarded Brendan's email to him, hoping he can share publicly
some of the background he has shared with me.
He actually did the field-work himself.
Michael
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*Subject:* [ANZMapS] Disputed maps on UAE ID cards
Saudi halts recognition of UAE ID cards over map issue
Khaleej Times - 22 August, 2009
Saudi Arabia said on Friday it has stopped recognising UAE identity
cards because it dislikes a map on the cards and is requiring
Emiratis to travel with a passport instead.
Under a mutual agreement between members of the Gulf Cooperation
Council (GCC), UAE and Saudi citizens were allowed to gain entrance
to the other country by showing their national identity cards.
But Saudi Arabia withdrew from the agreement in protest at an image
of the UAE map on Emiratis’ ID cards that does not correspond to the
border agreed by the two in 1974, General Salem Al Bolayhed, head
of the immigration authority, was quoted as saying by the official
SPA news agency.
“The kingdom has taken many measures to contain the issue by
submitting an official memorandum via diplomatic channels... calling
on brothers in the UAE to correct the map to match the current
reality of common borders between the two countries,” Bolayhed said.
“And since there was no response from the UAE to the efforts made in
that respect, it has been decided that UAE citizens should be banned
from entering the kingdom with their official identity cards.”
“Citizens of the two countries wishing to move between the official
crossings have to use their passports instead of their national
identity cards,” he added.
Dubai.
A similar article in Gulf News today (
http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Travel_and_Tourism/10342976.html
<http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Travel_and_Tourism/10342976.html> ),
however they don't state the reason as clearly as in Khaleej Times.
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And another example of NZ involvement in the mapping of borders in the
Middle East is the involvement of our Department of Survey and Land
Information (which used to be the Lands and Survey Department, and later
became Land Information New Zealand) in the mapping of the Kuwaiti-Iraq
border between 1991 and 1994. The Department, along with the Swedish
National Survey, was commissioned by the United Nations to demarcate and
map the border. The Department provided a team of geodesists,
surveyors, photogrammetrists and cartographers to carry out the work in
conjunction with the Swedes, and the Director General / Surveyor
General, Bill Robertson, became a member of the United Nations
Iraq/Kuwait Border Commission.
Cheers,
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This episode is a reflection of the past difficulties in agreeing this
border, and others in the area.
The man who has actually mapped the border is a Lebanese born, NZ
educated, and now German resident cartographer (married to a kiwi).
I have forwarded Brendan's email to him, hoping he can share publicly
some of the background he has shared with me.
He actually did the field-work himself.
Michael
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*Subject:* [ANZMapS] Disputed maps on UAE ID cards
Saudi halts recognition of UAE ID cards over map issue
Khaleej Times - 22 August, 2009
Saudi Arabia said on Friday it has stopped recognising UAE identity
cards because it dislikes a map on the cards and is requiring
Emiratis to travel with a passport instead.
Under a mutual agreement between members of the Gulf Cooperation
Council (GCC), UAE and Saudi citizens were allowed to gain entrance
to the other country by showing their national identity cards.
But Saudi Arabia withdrew from the agreement in protest at an image
of the UAE map on Emiratis’ ID cards that does not correspond to the
border agreed by the two in 1974, General Salem Al Bolayhed, head
of the immigration authority, was quoted as saying by the official
SPA news agency.
“The kingdom has taken many measures to contain the issue by
submitting an official memorandum via diplomatic channels... calling
on brothers in the UAE to correct the map to match the current
reality of common borders between the two countries,” Bolayhed said.
“And since there was no response from the UAE to the efforts made in
that respect, it has been decided that UAE citizens should be banned
from entering the kingdom with their official identity cards.”
“Citizens of the two countries wishing to move between the official
crossings have to use their passports instead of their national
identity cards,” he added.
Dubai.
A similar article in Gulf News today (
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The Globe, journal of the Australian and New Zealand Map society is seeking a reviewer for the following heavy coffee-table-sized book.
Shirley, Rodney, "Courtiers and Cannibals, Angels and Amazons, the art of the decorative cartographic titlepage",
Hes & De Graaf, Hardback, 272pp, 180 illustrations (115 in colour). Euro60.
If you would like to review this title for us, please contact me offlist.
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:23:33 EDT
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All
I think Mark hit it with the farm connection.
I have a 1914 "road map" of Hunterdon-Somerset Counties, NJ that also
has numbers in red overprinting. The map looks nothing like what we
call road maps, more like a 19th Century map.
The map was an insert in the 1914 Farm & Business Directory of the two
counties - and the overprint numbers correspond to the locations of the
farms and business in the Directory.
Such a map would be essential to the rural (now suburban) region where
most farmers were still picking up their mail at the local general store
with few getting delivery via RFD. It would be the only way to locate a
particular farm along an often unnamed road, rarely signed named roads
and most likely unnumbered farm houses.
Perhaps there was some directory with the Gousha in question. As I
said, I think Mark nailed it.
Regards,
Frank Curcio " 292
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi,
For what it's worth, I grew up not far from the area in this Gousha map. # 434 There are a lot of farms in this area, many of which have been owned by the same family for generations, so I think the map has something to do with the individual farms themselves. Though depending on the accuracy of the dots, there was a general store further down from #434 along M-81 that would have/could have been operational during the 1930s. I forwarded the map to my father to see if anything rings any bells with him.
My curiosity is piqued.
Meagan Duever
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:23:33 EDT
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All
I think Mark hit it with the farm connection.
I have a 1914 "road map" of Hunterdon-Somerset Counties, NJ that also
has numbers in red overprinting. The map looks nothing like what we
call road maps, more like a 19th Century map.
The map was an insert in the 1914 Farm & Business Directory of the two
counties - and the overprint numbers correspond to the locations of the
farms and business in the Directory.
Such a map would be essential to the rural (now suburban) region where
most farmers were still picking up their mail at the local general store
with few getting delivery via RFD. It would be the only way to locate a
particular farm along an often unnamed road, rarely signed named roads
and most likely unnumbered farm houses.
Perhaps there was some directory with the Gousha in question. As I
said, I think Mark nailed it.
Regards,
Frank Curcio " 292
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:08:22 -0400
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All,
Makes me wonder if this map shows the locations of 25yr, 50yr, & 100yr family farms. It would account for the round, square, and home-plate number symbols. Just a thought.
John Olson
Librarian - Maps/GIS/Human Geography
358 E.S. Bird Library
Syracuse University
222 Waverly Ave.
Syracuse, NY 13244
[log in to unmask]
T-315.443.4818
F-315.443.9510
Think outside the walls
The Library is as close as your computer
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
For what it's worth, I grew up not far from the area in this Gousha map. # 434 There are a lot of farms in this area, many of which have been owned by the same family for generations, so I think the map has something to do with the individual farms themselves. Though depending on the accuracy of the dots, there was a general store further down from #434 along M-81 that would have/could have been operational during the 1930s. I forwarded the map to my father to see if anything rings any bells with him.
My curiosity is piqued.
Meagan Duever
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:23:33 EDT
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All
I think Mark hit it with the farm connection.
I have a 1914 "road map" of Hunterdon-Somerset Counties, NJ that also
has numbers in red overprinting. The map looks nothing like what we
call road maps, more like a 19th Century map.
The map was an insert in the 1914 Farm & Business Directory of the two
counties - and the overprint numbers correspond to the locations of the
farms and business in the Directory.
Such a map would be essential to the rural (now suburban) region where
most farmers were still picking up their mail at the local general store
with few getting delivery via RFD. It would be the only way to locate a
particular farm along an often unnamed road, rarely signed named roads
and most likely unnumbered farm houses.
Perhaps there was some directory with the Gousha in question. As I
said, I think Mark nailed it.
Regards,
Frank Curcio " 292
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:15:22 +0100
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To:
Please excuse duplication for wide posting. Please pass on to others
who might be interested
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* The J.B. Harley Research Fellowships in the History of Cartography*
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The Harley Fellowships - the only one of their kind in Europe - provide
support of up to four weeks (normally at
GBP 400 per week) for those, from any discipline, doing the equivalent
of post-graduate level work in the historical map
collections of the United Kingdom. Web site: _
http://www.maphistory.info/harley.html_
*Harley-Delmas Fellowships *
For the period 2007-2011, in addition to the normal J. B. Harley
Fellowships there are also Harley-Delmas Fellowships funded by the
Gladys Krieble Delmas Foundation. Successful applicants researching the
history of cartography during the European Renaissance to the
Enlightenment c.1400-c.1800 will be eligible for a Harley-Delmas
Fellowship.* **All* applicants, however, should apply for a J. B. Harley
Fellowship. Eligibility for a Harley-Delmas award will be decided by
the Selection Committee of the Trustees.
The closing date for applications is 1st NOVEMBER. The Fellowship
website includes an Application page that should provide all the
necessary information as well as answering many frequently asked questions:
< _ __http://www.maphistory.info/application.html_ >.
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi again,
Centennial farms weren't recognized in Michigan until 1948, not that a private company couldn't have recognized them in the meantime.... In the case of the area I know, there would be more. In fact one would have been right down the road to the east from the one at #434, but on the other side of the road. Two, the map would have/should have extended further to the north because there are a lot of family farms in Huron County (where the legend is) that are just as old.
Meagan Duever
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:08:22 -0400
From: John A Olson <[log in to unmask]>
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All,
Makes me wonder if this map shows the locations of 25yr, 50yr, & 100yr family farms. It would account for the round, square, and home-plate number symbols. Just a thought.
John Olson
Librarian - Maps/GIS/Human Geography
358 E.S. Bird Library
Syracuse University
222 Waverly Ave.
Syracuse, NY 13244
[log in to unmask]
T-315.443.4818
F-315.443.9510
Think outside the walls
The Library is as close as your computer
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Subject: Re: Gousha oddity
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
For what it's worth, I grew up not far from the area in this Gousha map. # 434 There are a lot of farms in this area, many of which have been owned by the same family for generations, so I think the map has something to do with the individual farms themselves. Though depending on the accuracy of the dots, there was a general store further down from #434 along M-81 that would have/could have been operational during the 1930s. I forwarded the map to my father to see if anything rings any bells with him.
My curiosity is piqued.
Meagan Duever
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Gousha oddity
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:23:33 EDT
From: [log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
All
I think Mark hit it with the farm connection.
I have a 1914 "road map" of Hunterdon-Somerset Counties, NJ that also
has numbers in red overprinting. The map looks nothing like what we
call road maps, more like a 19th Century map.
The map was an insert in the 1914 Farm & Business Directory of the two
counties - and the overprint numbers correspond to the locations of the
farms and business in the Directory.
Such a map would be essential to the rural (now suburban) region where
most farmers were still picking up their mail at the local general store
with few getting delivery via RFD. It would be the only way to locate a
particular farm along an often unnamed road, rarely signed named roads
and most likely unnumbered farm houses.
Perhaps there was some directory with the Gousha in question. As I
said, I think Mark nailed it.
Regards,
Frank Curcio " 292
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: AliceH <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
The map has such a commercial design aspect, I am doubtful about the
historic family farm aspect. I just sense that Gousha created this on
contract for some organization or government entity, accompanying a
report or periodical article.
Alice
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Subject: Re: Gousha oddity
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Hi again,
Centennial farms weren't recognized in Michigan until 1948, not that
a private company couldn't have recognized them in the meantime....
In the case of the area I know, there would be more. In fact one
would have been right down the road to the east from the one at
#434, but on the other side of the road. Two, the map would
have/should have extended further to the north because there are a
lot of family farms in Huron County (where the legend is) that are
just as old.
Meagan Duever
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:08:22 -0400
From: John A Olson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>'
<[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
References: <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
All,
Makes me wonder if this map shows the locations of 25yr, 50yr, &
100yr family farms. It would account for the round, square, and
home-plate number symbols. Just a thought.
John Olson
Librarian - Maps/GIS/Human Geography
358 E.S. Bird Library
Syracuse University
222 Waverly Ave.
Syracuse, NY 13244
[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
T-315.443.4818
F-315.443.9510
Think outside the walls
The Library is as close as your computer
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Hi,
For what it's worth, I grew up not far from the area in this Gousha
map. # 434 There are a lot of farms in this area, many of which have
been owned by the same family for generations, so I think the map
has something to do with the individual farms themselves. Though
depending on the accuracy of the dots, there was a general store
further down from #434 along M-81 that would have/could have been
operational during the 1930s. I forwarded the map to my father to
see if anything rings any bells with him.
My curiosity is piqued.
Meagan Duever
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Subject: Re: Gousha oddity
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:23:33 EDT
From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
All
I think Mark hit it with the farm connection.
I have a 1914 "road map" of Hunterdon-Somerset Counties, NJ that also
has numbers in red overprinting. The map looks nothing like what we
call road maps, more like a 19th Century map.
The map was an insert in the 1914 Farm & Business Directory of the two
counties - and the overprint numbers correspond to the locations of the
farms and business in the Directory.
Such a map would be essential to the rural (now suburban) region where
most farmers were still picking up their mail at the local general store
with few getting delivery via RFD. It would be the only way to locate a
particular farm along an often unnamed road, rarely signed named roads
and most likely unnumbered farm houses.
Perhaps there was some directory with the Gousha in question. As I
said, I think Mark nailed it.
Regards,
Frank Curcio " 292
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:47:41 -0500
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:39:39 -0400
From: Edward James Redmond <[log in to unmask]>
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My bet is the location of crop circles...
Ed Redmond
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Subject: Re: Re: Gousha oddity
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: AliceH <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
The map has such a commercial design aspect, I am doubtful about the
historic family farm aspect. I just sense that Gousha created this on
contract for some organization or government entity, accompanying a
report or periodical article.
Alice
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:54:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Hi again,
Centennial farms weren't recognized in Michigan until 1948, not that
a private company couldn't have recognized them in the meantime....
In the case of the area I know, there would be more. In fact one
would have been right down the road to the east from the one at
#434, but on the other side of the road. Two, the map would
have/should have extended further to the north because there are a
lot of family farms in Huron County (where the legend is) that are
just as old.
Meagan Duever
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:08:22 -0400
From: John A Olson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>'
<[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
References: <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
All,
Makes me wonder if this map shows the locations of 25yr, 50yr, &
100yr family farms. It would account for the round, square, and
home-plate number symbols. Just a thought.
John Olson
Librarian - Maps/GIS/Human Geography
358 E.S. Bird Library
Syracuse University
222 Waverly Ave.
Syracuse, NY 13244
[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
T-315.443.4818
F-315.443.9510
Think outside the walls
The Library is as close as your computer
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:39:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meagan J Duever <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Hi,
For what it's worth, I grew up not far from the area in this Gousha
map. # 434 There are a lot of farms in this area, many of which have
been owned by the same family for generations, so I think the map
has something to do with the individual farms themselves. Though
depending on the accuracy of the dots, there was a general store
further down from #434 along M-81 that would have/could have been
operational during the 1930s. I forwarded the map to my father to
see if anything rings any bells with him.
My curiosity is piqued.
Meagan Duever
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:23:33 EDT
From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
All
I think Mark hit it with the farm connection.
I have a 1914 "road map" of Hunterdon-Somerset Counties, NJ that also
has numbers in red overprinting. The map looks nothing like what we
call road maps, more like a 19th Century map.
The map was an insert in the 1914 Farm & Business Directory of the two
counties - and the overprint numbers correspond to the locations of the
farms and business in the Directory.
Such a map would be essential to the rural (now suburban) region where
most farmers were still picking up their mail at the local general store
with few getting delivery via RFD. It would be the only way to locate a
particular farm along an often unnamed road, rarely signed named roads
and most likely unnumbered farm houses.
Perhaps there was some directory with the Gousha in question. As I
said, I think Mark nailed it.
Regards,
Frank Curcio " 292
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:41:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Donna G Genzmer <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi All,
Please join me in welcoming Howard Veregin to Science Hall as the
new State Cartographer! Just before I left town, Howard accepted
our offer, and will be joining us as of September 1. He received
his PhD from UC - Santa Barbara, and held a faculty position in
cartography at the University of Minnesota before joining Rand
McNally in 2000, where he was director of their GIS division. He is
excited to be back in an academic setting, and the State Cartography
Office will benefit greatly from his years and diversity of experience.
Additionally, please do thank Jim Knox in particular for his many,
many hours chairing the search committee that resulted in this
hire. We had a great slate of short-listed candidates, and Jim
spent the better portion of the summer working to ensure a
successful outcome for this search.
Bob
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University of Wisconsin - Madison
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Secretary, Treasurer, Webmaster, GIS Council
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USA
414-229-4865 (p)
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:20:43 -0400
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Alice,
As for the commercial appearance of the map, a typical map company would
just apply data on top of (so to speak) existing covered maps, it being
too expensive to make anything else. The companies I've worked for do
the same thing even today.
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The map has such a commercial design aspect, I am doubtful about the
historic family farm aspect. I just sense that Gousha created this on
contract for some organization or government entity, accompanying a
report or periodical article.
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:14:12 -0500
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I have a few superceded Chamber of Commerce city maps for several states:
California
Maine
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Montana
New Hampshire
New Mexico
New York
No reimbursement required. Give me your mailing address.
Arlyn Booth
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I have two titles to give away:
A guide to state and local census geography
Geographic areas reference manual
No reimbursement required. Give me your mailing address.
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:44:46 +0200
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All
I'm trying to plot the population of cities of different nations, in order
to compare the different shapes (typically a power-law shape with different
slopes) that come from countries with different economical level.
The data I found are limited to the main cities (above 100.000 inhabitants),
but I need data of smaller towns and villages.
Has anyone some suggestion how to find manageable data (i.e. in Excel),
mainly of USA and China towns (or other countries)?
Regards
Piero Ausonio Bianco
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:40:38 +0000
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http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=4983
Tanks on the A56: Soviet invasion plan on show
26 Aug 2009
A map showing the route that Soviet tanks would have taken during an invasion of Manchester forms part of a display at an international conference this week.
The map - one of 80 in an exhibition at The University of Manchester's John Rylands Library - is part of the backdrop to a reception during the Royal Geographical Society (with IBG)s annual conference.
The Soviet mapmakers used colour codes to describe targets: black for industrial sites, purple for public buildings and green for military sites.
They also added secret information left out of Ordnance Survey maps from 35 years ago, such as Strangeways Prison and the Risley Moss nuclear research site.
University of Manchester Geography Lecturer and curator Chris Perkins said: "This and other maps in our exhibition called Mapping Manchester reveal a very different side to this city.
"It shows the roads - familiar to many Mancunians - which the Soviets felt were wide enough to carry tanks including Washway Road, the Mancunian Way, and Princess Road.
"They even transliterated place names - such as Urmston, Salford and Stretford into Russian.
"Quite unnerving really as the map - and their intelligence - is only 35 years old.
"It's incredible how detailed their information was.
After declassification by the Russians at the end of the cold war, these maps became available on the international market.
He added: "The Soviet military who compiled the maps used aerial sources such as spy planes and satellite imagery, to supplement information from UK Ordnance survey maps and publicly available road atlases and trade directories.
"But there's so much extra information, it would be fair to assume that they were able to gather a considerable amount of intelligence on the ground.
"No doubt NATO were doing similar things in Russian cities."
Other highlights of the Mapping Manchester exhibition include a excerpt of the first large scale survey of the city published by William Green in 1794.
And a 1945 map shows how the city centre was slated for transformation into a modernist utopia along the lines of inner city Birmingham. Thankfully the plans never went ahead.
A 1914 "isochron" map, produced by Manchester Council, shows how long it took to commute to the city centre.
It was created to promote a tramways initiative, echoing the rejected Transport Innovation Fund congestion charge proposals of last year.
And an 1889 map of licensed alcohol sellers produced by the United Kingdom Alliance - one of the period's temperance societies - showed the many alcoholic hotspots of boozy Victorians.
Notes for editors
For media enquiries, please contact:
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The material on display is held by The University of Manchester and other institutions in the city, including generous loans of materials from the Manchester City Library and Archives, Chetham's Library and the Manchester Geographical Society.
High quality images are available.
Mapping Manchester - Cartographic Stories of the City runs from Thursday 25 June to Sunday 17 January 2010 at The Historic Reading Room, John Rylands Library, Deansgate, Manchester. Entrance is free.
The Royal Geographical Society (with The Institute of British Geographers) is the learned society and professional body for geography. Formed in 1830, its Royal Charter of 1859 is for 'the advancement of geographical science'. Visit www.rgs.org. The Societys annual international conference takes place from 26 to 28 August at The University of Manchester, for full details visit www.rgs.org/AC2009
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:13:37 +0100
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*Subject:* Not so top secret!
If you’ve not seen this and are in the least bit interested
https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/New_Digital_Master_Map_for_Great_Britian:_Confidential_Advice_to_Ministers%2C_2009
see the link for the document itself.
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E & E Maps...reading topographic maps
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This is the tail end of a discussion about graphic scale on maphist -
but these are great sites for scale information ... forwarded by Angie.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:41:02 -0400
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References:
Kim H. Edwin wrote:
> Just one site showing various Graphic or Bar Scales with explanations http://www.wildernessmanuals.com/manual_1/chpt_4/3.html
I think that the above site uses information from this book on map
reading, which is freely available online:
http://www.map-reading.com/intro.php . I thought the source might of
interest to others on the list.
Joel Kovarsky
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:29:08 -0500
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:04:30 -0400
From: Matthew Edney <[log in to unmask]>
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Please pardon any cross-posting.
David Woodward Memorial Fellowship in the History of Cartography, 2010-2011
Institute for Research in the Humanities, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Applications are solicited for an annual two-month memorial fellowship
in honor of David Woodward, a founding editor of *The History of
Cartography*. The fellowship is made possible by the generosity of
Arthur and Janet Holzheimer. The purpose of this fellowship is to
attract a scholar to the University of WisconsinMadison campus to
research and write on a subject related to the history of cartography.
The fellow chosen for the 2010-2011 academic year will focus on a period
relevant to any of the last three volumes (Four through Six) of *The
History of Cartography* series, which cover the modern era from ca. 1650
to 2000; preference will be given to work that compliments one of the
three volumes.
The two-month residence, taken at any time between July 2010 and June
2011, will be at the Institute for Research in the Humanities, which
will provide office space and will provide other facilities and support
given to scholars at the Institute. Participation in the scholarly
community of the Institute is strongly encouraged. The stipend is $3,500
per month for two months. The selection of the fellow will be made on
the recommendation of the editors of Volumes Four and Six and of the
Executive Committee of the Institute for Research in the Humanities.
The Institute for Research in the Humanities, founded in 1959 as the
first institute in North America devoted solely to the support and
encouragement of humanistic scholarship, is located in the heart of the
campus of the University of WisconsinMadison. The Institute supports
research in the traditional humanistic areas of literature, history, and
philosophy; it also promotes interdisciplinary scholarship, while
cultivating methodological diversity and breadth. For more information,
consult http://www.wisc.edu/irh/.
The University of Wisconsin Libraries are particularly well suited to
humanistic and cartographic scholarship. Memorial Library (with three
million volumes) is the principal research facility on campus for the
humanities and social sciences and has an excellent collection of
historical monographs and reference books. It also houses an extensive
periodical collection. The Department of Special Collections contains
the Chester H. Thordarson Collection in the history of science and is
strong in the history of books and printing. The Geography Library
contains the University of WisconsinMadison's primary collection of
geography and cartography. This library is in Science Hall, the location
of the Geography Department and the Robinson Map Library. For more
information, consult http://www.library.wisc.edu/libraries/. The History
of Cartography Project, also housed in Science Hall, maintains an
archive of articles and illustrations used in previous volumes, and its
staff is available for consultation.
Applicants for the David Woodward Memorial Fellowship, who should hold a
Ph.D. or equivalent, should submit an application form and a proposal
not exceeding four double spaced pages explaining what they intend to
study during the two-month residence and what the end product is likely
to be. A simple application form and further information about the
Fellowship and Institute is available on request from:
Loretta Freiling
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University Club Building
432 E. Campus Mall
University of Wisconsin
Madison, WI 53706
Phone: 608-262-3855
Fax: 608-265-4173
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The deadline for completed applications for the 2010-2011 Fellowship is
*19 February 2010*. Applicants will be informed of the committees
decision before the end of April 2010.
Please forward to appropriate venues.
--
Matthew H. Edney
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Osher Chair in the History of Cartography
University of Southern Maine
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University of Wisconsin-Madison
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:53:35 -0500
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Subject: Philippine Islands 1:500,000
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:19:10 -0400
From: Steve Rogers <[log in to unmask]>
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The following nearly complete map set (31 sheets out of 32) is available
to any library:
U.S. Army Map Service
Philippine Islands
1:500,000
1944 (2nd ed.)
AMS S401
Missing: Sheet ND 50-6
Please send us your name and mailing address.
Thanks.
Steve
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:32:15 -0500
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Subject: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:59 -0700
From: Matthew Parsons <[log in to unmask]>
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I have a patron doing place name research and would like to know if
anyone has an original chart surveyed by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N. from
1846/1847? Below is an excerpt (for background) of our dialog thus far
regarding his request:
*Patron reply -* I really need the original 1847 from Kellett. What I'm
trying to do is trace place names from Wilkes through Kellett, then Alden
and finally Richards (which is the first chart below that you reference).
Any idea where I might find Kellett? I've tried BC Archives and an archive
in England with no success.
*UW Map Collection -* There are two nautical chart reprints in our
collection that mention Henry
Kelletts 1847 surveys. Neither of them are directly BY him, they just say
that they use his survey work
Here are titles, and links to the catalog descriptions:
1.Strait of Juan de Fuca / surveyed by Captain Henry Kellett, R.N., 1847 ;
Haro & Rosario Straits by Captain G.H. Richards, R.N. ; Admiralty Inlet and
Puget Sound by the United States Exploring Expedition, 1841 ; Coast
south of
C. Flattery by the same in 1853.
<http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4516793~S6>
this description includes a further link to an image connect to this item
online
2. North America--West Coast, Strait of Juan de Fuca and the channels
between the continent & Vancouver Id. : showing the boundary line between
British & American possessions / from the Admiralty surveys by Captains H.
Kellett, R.N. 1847, & G.H. Richards, R.N. 1858-62
<http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4517536~S6>
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:14:40 -0500
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From the USGS Home Page:
Landsat 5 is back in business! After tumbling out of control, the 25-year
old spacecraft has been restored to full operation.
Evaluation of the Landsat 5 data following the recent spacecraft anomaly
is complete. All data collected at the Landsat Ground Station in Sioux
Falls, South Dakota from Saturday, August 15, 2009 through today (Monday,
August 17, 2009) are currently available for order or immediate download (
http://glovis.usgs.gov or http://earthexplorer.usgs.gov).
Engineers deemed the data from Friday, August 14 as non-nominal due to
cooler than normal temperatures associated with the primary focal plane of
the instrument. Data from that day will remain unavailable for order or
download. The Landsat Team continues to investigate the cause of the
incident, but do not have anything definitive to report at this time.
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Robert Murowchick wrote:
> The British Library <http://www.bl.uk/> has a number of
> Kellett-related holdings from the late 1840s, including:
>
> System number 004818197
> Cataloguing level Minimal record
> Title LinkCham Bay. Surveyed by Capt. H. Kellett, and the officers
> of H.M.S. Herald, 1847. [Admiralty Chart]
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/1X2ATT66YSYH3SHSV73A9U6Q4XINB9M5KX2UEVQNI58CH4KR7B-72687?func=service&doc_number=004818197&line_number=0008&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Publisher/year LinkLondon, 1861.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/1X2ATT66YSYH3SHSV73A9U6Q4XINB9M5KX2UEVQNI58CH4KR7B-72688?func=service&doc_number=004818197&line_number=0009&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Subject LinkCHAM BAY, Ghana -- 1861.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/1X2ATT66YSYH3SHSV73A9U6Q4XINB9M5KX2UEVQNI58CH4KR7B-72689?func=service&doc_number=004818197&line_number=0010&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Added name LinkKELLETT, Henry.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/1X2ATT66YSYH3SHSV73A9U6Q4XINB9M5KX2UEVQNI58CH4KR7B-72690?func=service&doc_number=004818197&line_number=0011&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Holdings (All) Details
> <http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/1X2ATT66YSYH3SHSV73A9U6Q4XINB9M5KX2UEVQNI58CH4KR7B-72691?func=item-global&doc_library=BLL01&doc_number=004818197&year=&volume=&sub_library=>
>
> Shelfmark Maps SEC.10.(2748.) Request
> <https://catalogue.bl.uk:443/F/1X2ATT66YSYH3SHSV73A9U6Q4XINB9M5KX2UEVQNI58CH4KR7B-72692?func=omts-pre-derived&doc_number=004818197&852_occur=000000001&format=full>
>
> System number 004817791
> Cataloguing level Minimal record
> Title LinkCerros Island. Surveyed by Capt. H. Kellett ... 1846.
> [Admiralty Chart]
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-20886?func=service&doc_number=004817791&line_number=0009&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Publisher/year LinkLondon, 1861.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-20887?func=service&doc_number=004817791&line_number=0010&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Subject LinkCERROS ISLAND, California -- 1861.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-20888?func=service&doc_number=004817791&line_number=0011&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Added name LinkKELLETT, Henry.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-20889?func=service&doc_number=004817791&line_number=0012&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Holdings (All) Details
> <http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-20890?func=item-global&doc_library=BLL01&doc_number=004817791&year=&volume=&sub_library=>
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> Shelfmark Maps SEC.10.(2795.) Request
> <https://catalogue.bl.uk:443/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-20891?func=omts-pre-derived&doc_number=004817791&852_occur=000000001&format=full>
>
>
>
> System number 004915716
> Cataloguing level Minimal record
> Title LinkPort Nuevo in the Bay of Pueblo Nuevo. Surveyed by Capt.
> H. Kellett, 1849. [Admiralty Chart]
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73418?func=service&doc_number=004915716&line_number=0009&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Publisher/year LinkLondon, 1852.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73419?func=service&doc_number=004915716&line_number=0010&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Subject LinkPUEBLO NUEVO, Veragua, Panama (Port) -- 1852.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73420?func=service&doc_number=004915716&line_number=0011&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Added name LinkKELLETT, Henry.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73421?func=service&doc_number=004915716&line_number=0012&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Other editions [Port Nuevo in the Bay of Pueblo Nuevo. Surveyed
> by Capt. H. Kellett, 1849. [Admiralty Chart]] London, 1900
> Related item Other edition available: [Port Nuevo in the Bay of
> Pueblo Nuevo. Surveyed by Capt. H. Kellett, 1849. [Admiralty Chart]]
> <http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73422?func=direct&local_base=BLACU&doc_number=004915717>
>
> Holdings (All) Details
> <http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73423?func=item-global&doc_library=BLL01&doc_number=004915716&year=&volume=&sub_library=>
>
> Shelfmark Maps SEC.10.(2139.) Request
> <https://catalogue.bl.uk:443/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-73424?func=omts-pre-derived&doc_number=004915716&852_occur=000000001&format=full>
>
>
>
> System number 004951959
> Cataloguing level Minimal record
> Title LinkVictoria Harbour Surveyed by Capt. A. Kellett, 1847.
> [Admiralty Chart]
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-21628?func=service&doc_number=004951959&line_number=0009&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Publisher/year LinkLondon, 1848.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-21629?func=service&doc_number=004951959&line_number=0010&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Subject LinkVICTORIA, Vancouver Island (Harbour) -- 1848.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-21630?func=service&doc_number=004951959&line_number=0011&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Added name LinkKELLETT, Henry.
> <javascript:open_window(%22http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-21631?func=service&doc_number=004951959&line_number=0012&service_type=TAG%22);>
>
> Holdings (All) Details
> <http://catalogue.bl.uk:80/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-21632?func=item-global&doc_library=BLL01&doc_number=004951959&year=&volume=&sub_library=>
>
> Shelfmark Maps SEC.10.(1897.) Request
> <https://catalogue.bl.uk:443/F/XU12LSV4G43H8XRCHDICVSB2GR6SFKR1HG22XDFSAMQ1IUA874-21633?func=omts-pre-derived&doc_number=004951959&852_occur=000000001&format=full>
>
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> On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Maps-L Moderator wrote:
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:59 -0700
> From: Matthew Parsons <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
> I have a patron doing place name research and would like to know if
> anyone has an original chart surveyed by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N. from
> 1846/1847? Below is an excerpt (for background) of our dialog thus far
> regarding his request:
>
> *Patron reply -* I really need the original 1847 from Kellett. What I'm
> trying to do is trace place names from Wilkes through Kellett, then Alden
> and finally Richards (which is the first chart below that you reference).
> Any idea where I might find Kellett? I've tried BC Archives and an archive
> in England with no success.
>
>
> *UW Map Collection -* There are two nautical chart reprints in our
> collection that mention Henry
> Kelletts 1847 surveys. Neither of them are directly BY him, they just say
> that they use his survey work
> Here are titles, and links to the catalog descriptions:
>
> 1.Strait of Juan de Fuca / surveyed by Captain Henry Kellett, R.N., 1847 ;
> Haro & Rosario Straits by Captain G.H. Richards, R.N. ; Admiralty
> Inlet and
> Puget Sound by the United States Exploring Expedition, 1841 ; Coast
> south of
> C. Flattery by the same in 1853.
>
> <http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4516793~S6
> <http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4516793%7ES6>>
> this description includes a further link to an image connect to this item
> online
>
> 2. North America--West Coast, Strait of Juan de Fuca and the channels
> between the continent & Vancouver Id. : showing the boundary line between
> British & American possessions / from the Admiralty surveys by Captains H.
> Kellett, R.N. 1847, & G.H. Richards, R.N. 1858-62
>
> <http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4517536~S6
> <http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4517536%7ES6>>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:57:33 -0500
From: Adonna Fleming <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
I'm the map librarian at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. I'm
looking for an electronic atlas that has simple images that patrons can
use to put in their electronic projects(web, PowerPoint etc.), or print
off on desktop type printers. Simple and inexpensive -- around $2000
-3000 per year is a must.
We already have the more complex software. i.e. ESRI, Google Earth Pro
etc.
I'm aware of "AtoZ Maps Online", Is there anything else out that you can
recommend?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Adonna Fleming, Associate Professor
GIS-Maps-Geosciences Librarian
Geology Library
10 Bessey Hall
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Lincoln, NE 68588
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:24:55 -0500
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Subject: Re: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:04:33 -0700
From: Tim Ross <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: The University of British Columbia Library
To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
References: <[log in to unmask]>
Matthew,
I believe that the UBC Library's Rare Books & Special Collections dept.
holds a copy of the original Kellett chart of 1847. The librarian
responsible for rare maps is on vacation till Sep. 1, but I will fwd.
your request to her for reply next week.
Best,
Tim
Maps-L Moderator wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:59 -0700
> From: Matthew Parsons <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> I have a patron doing place name research and would like to know if
> anyone has an original chart surveyed by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N. from
> 1846/1847? Below is an excerpt (for background) of our dialog thus far
> regarding his request:
>
> *Patron reply -* I really need the original 1847 from Kellett. What I'm
> trying to do is trace place names from Wilkes through Kellett, then Alden
> and finally Richards (which is the first chart below that you reference).
> Any idea where I might find Kellett? I've tried BC Archives and an
> archive
> in England with no success.
>
>
> *UW Map Collection -* There are two nautical chart reprints in our
> collection that mention Henry
> Kelletts 1847 surveys. Neither of them are directly BY him, they just
> say
> that they use his survey work
> Here are titles, and links to the catalog descriptions:
>
> 1.Strait of Juan de Fuca / surveyed by Captain Henry Kellett, R.N.,
> 1847 ;
> Haro & Rosario Straits by Captain G.H. Richards, R.N. ; Admiralty
> Inlet and
> Puget Sound by the United States Exploring Expedition, 1841 ; Coast
> south of
> C. Flattery by the same in 1853.
>
> <http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4516793~S6>
> this description includes a further link to an image connect to this
> item
> online
>
> 2. North America--West Coast, Strait of Juan de Fuca and the channels
> between the continent & Vancouver Id. : showing the boundary line between
> British & American possessions / from the Admiralty surveys by
> Captains H.
> Kellett, R.N. 1847, & G.H. Richards, R.N. 1858-62
>
> <http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4517536~S6>
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:36:41 -0500 (CDT)
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GEOSCIENCE LIBRARIANSHIP SEMINAR SET FOR OCTOBER 17
“Geoscience Librarianship 101” – a one-day introduction to earth science
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Portland State University, Portland, Oregon. Registration is free and
open to all information professionals as well as students in library and
information studies.
Clara P. McLeod (Washington University in St. Louis) is the coordinator
for this year’s workshop, which features presentations by three
experienced geoscience librarians. Lisa Dunn (Colorado School of Mines)
will discuss collection development and managing electronic resources.
Lura E. Joseph (University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana) will provide
an overview of reference and instructional services. Linda Zellmer
(Western Illinois University) will speak about maps and geographic
information systems, both data sources and applications. There will be
ample opportunities throughout for open discussion and networking.
The program is set for 10:15 AM to 5:30 PM in PSU’s Branford P. Millar
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charge for the seminar, but pre-registration is required and space is
limited. The deadline to register is October 1, 2009. To reserve your
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Publicity Officer, telephone 202-478-7960, e-mail [log in to unmask]
Geoscience Librarianship 101 is made possible in part through the
generous support of the Portland State University Library and ESRI.
The Geoscience Information Society is an international professional
organization devoted to improving the exchange of information in the
earth sciences. Information about the Society may be found at its
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__________________________________
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:56:05 -0500
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:39:08 -0500
From: McEathron, Scott R <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
References: A<[log in to unmask]>
There are plenty of free sites such as:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/refmaps
.html
http://future.state.gov/where/maps
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/english/htmain.htm
Scott
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Subject: need on-line atlas recommendation
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: need on-line atlas recommendation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:57:33 -0500
From: Adonna Fleming <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
I'm the map librarian at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. I'm
looking for an electronic atlas that has simple images that patrons can
use to put in their electronic projects(web, PowerPoint etc.), or print
off on desktop type printers. Simple and inexpensive -- around $2000
-3000 per year is a must.
We already have the more complex software. i.e. ESRI, Google Earth Pro
etc.
I'm aware of "AtoZ Maps Online", Is there anything else out that you can
recommend?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Adonna Fleming, Associate Professor
GIS-Maps-Geosciences Librarian
Geology Library
10 Bessey Hall
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Lincoln, NE 68588
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:56:21 -0500
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Subject: Re: need on-line atlas recommendation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:52:02 -0700
From: Kirk Fullmer <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
CC: [log in to unmask]
Here are two website links that take you to our new Atlas on DVD and our
new Interactive US/World Atlas from Klett-Perthes. These could be very
useful tools to work with electronic maps and images where you can
draw/trace, print them along with saving to computer for Power Point and
other usage.
http://mymapman.com/atlas-world-klett-perthes.html
http://www.klettmaps.com/index-interaktiv.html
Contact: or view info from websites
Kirk Fullmer
Educational Maps & Globes
888-310-7898
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:24:30 -0500 Maps-L Moderator <[log in to unmask]>
writes:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: need on-line atlas recommendation
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:57:33 -0500
> Hi,
>
> I'm the map librarian at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. I'm
looking for an electronic atlas that has simple images that patrons
> can use to put in their electronic projects(web, PowerPoint etc.), or
print off on desktop type printers. Simple and inexpensive -- around
> $2000 -3000 per year is a must.
>
> We already have the more complex software. i.e. ESRI, Google Earth Pro
etc.
>
> I'm aware of "AtoZ Maps Online", Is there anything else out that you
can recommend?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance,
>
> Adonna Fleming, Associate Professor
> GIS-Maps-Geosciences Librarian
> Geology Library
> 10 Bessey Hall
> University of Nebraska - Lincoln
> Lincoln, NE 68588
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 05:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
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*Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2009 11:24:30 PM
*Subject:* need on-line atlas recommendation
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: need on-line atlas recommendation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:57:33 -0500
From: Adonna Fleming <[log in to unmask]
<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Hi,
I'm the map librarian at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. I'm
looking for an electronic atlas that has simple images that patrons can
use to put in their electronic projects(web, PowerPoint etc.), or print
off on desktop type printers. Simple and inexpensive -- around $2000
-3000 per year is a must.
We already have the more complex software. i.e. ESRI, Google Earth Pro
etc.
I'm aware of "AtoZ Maps Online", Is there anything else out that you can
recommend?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Adonna Fleming, Associate Professor
GIS-Maps-Geosciences Librarian
Geology Library
10 Bessey Hall
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Lincoln, NE 68588
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:57:09 -0500
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Subject: kellett charts
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Subject: kellett charts
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:19:36 +0000
From: Brendan Whyte <[log in to unmask]>
To: mapsL <[log in to unmask]>
References: <[log in to unmask]>
The NLA has four nautical charts by a Captain Kellett:
China. Sheet IV [cartographic material] : Eastern coast from Chauan Bay to Port Matheson including the Pescadore Islands 1844 / surveyed by Captains Kellett & Collinson ;... by Great Britain. Hydrographic Dept London : Published according to Act of Parliament at the Hydrographic Office of the Admiratly : Sold by R. B. Bate Agent for the Admiralty charts, 21 Poultry, Augt. 20th 1849
China. Sheet V [cartographic material] : Port Matheson to Ragged Point / surveyed by Captns. Kellett and Collinson 1843; J. & C. Walker sculpt
by Great Britain. Hydrographic Dept London : Published according to Act of Parliament at the Hydrographic Office of the Admiralty : Sold by R. B. Bate Agent for the Admiralty charts, 21 Poultry, Aug. 15th 1849
China. Sheet VI [cartographic material] : Eastern coast from Ragged Roint to Pih-ki-shan / Suveyed by Captn. Kellett & Collinson 1843 ; J.& C. Walker Sculpt by Great Britain. Hydrographic Dept London : Published according to Act of Parliament at the Hydrographic Office of the Admiralty : Sold by R. B. Bate Agent for the Admiralty charts 21 Poultry, July 30th 1849
China. Sheet VII [cartographic material] : Eastern coast from the Pih-ki-shan to the Hie-shan Islands / surveyed by Captns Kellett & Collinson 1843 ; J.& C. Walker Sculpt by Great Britain. Hydrographic Dept London : Published according to Act of Parliament at the Hydrographic Office of the Admiralty Office : Sold by R.B. Bate Agent for the Admiralty charts 21 Poultry, August 1st 1849
Online at
Dr Brendan Whyte
Assistant Curator of Maps
National Library of Australia
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AUSTRALIA
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Subject: Satelite images in map collections
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:08:08 +0200
From: Henrik Dupont <[log in to unmask]>
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To Map Curators
I have been asked to produce a paper about storing satelite images in our Map Collection for historical reasons.
Does any collection have such a policy ?
Have any of you tried to store and/or catalogue these images ?
I would be happy to have any answer concerning this area of mapping.
Henrik Dupont
Map Curator
Dept of Maps, Prints and Photographs
The Royal Library in Denmark
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Subject: Strategic Planning Maps : Eurasia
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Subject: Strategic Planning Maps : Eurasia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:47:21 -0400
From: Steve Rogers <[log in to unmask]>
To: Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum Maps <[log in to unmask]>
Available free to any library:
Incomplete set (25 of 28 sheets) of Strategic Planning Maps : Eurasia
(scale 1:5,000,000).
(These sheets do not have gradient tints showing relief.)
Please send us your name and mailing address.
Thanks.
Steve
*Stephen W. Rogers*
*Map/Microforms Librarian & Geography/Atmospheric Science Collection
Manager*
*/The Ohio State University Libraries/*
Map Room
205 Thompson (Main) Library
1858 Neil Ave. Mall
Columbus, Ohio 43210
V: 614.688.8774
F: 614.292.7859
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:12:05 -0500
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Subject: Online State Atlases
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Subject: Online State Atlases
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:04:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Linda R Zellmer <[log in to unmask]>
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Hello,
While revising the Map Collection home page this summer, I collected the URLs for a wide variety of online state atlases. Links to them can be found at: http://www.wiu.edu/library/govpubs/maps/maps_web.sphp?id=124
If you know of one for a state that is not included on this list, I would be glad to add it. Linda Zellmer
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Linda Zellmer
Government Information & Data Services Librarian
415 Malpass Library
Macomb, IL 61455
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Phone: 309-298-2723
Fax: 309-298-2791