I was wondering what the upper size limit or even WRS might be for Nucella lapillus...most of my books list 2 inches and the largest I have seen offered for sale were in the 50-55mm ballpark from a "now extinct" population somewhere in the Netherlands I think it was ...it sounded like the habitat was lost due to factors other than collecting (?) ...does anybody know of large specimens or localities that have produced large specimens, either here in the US or in Europe (including the one in the Netherlands?). The largest specimen I have seen in the US was just under 50mm, at Acadia National Park, on the "left" side of the Bar at Bar Harbor....fresh dead, 49.8mm. Quite elongate Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=conch-l&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------