I have a question to ask about these two genera. It seems that multiple species of both genera are listed as 'Endangered' species (CITES), but are readily available on e**y. How is it possible that these shells can be openly sold on this web site, and yet apparently be listed as 'endangered'? Likewise Trochus niloticus and Turbo marmoratus are listed as 'threatened' and are also available on the site. I'm just wondering about the legal implications of these sales; considering how common the shells actually seem to be I suspect the terms 'endangered' or 'threatened' may not be biologically relevant. Just wondering. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=conch-l&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------